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LOTR campaign -- "Frodo Fails"?
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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 1543966" data-attributes="member: 3146"><p>I'm not certain that this would really work for Middle Earth. It seems like a much more Buffy the Vampire Slayer ending where the good guys win because they're bad-ass. </p><p></p><p>In Middle Earth, it usually didn't work that way (unless you count the Valar and you shouldn't count them). Feanor was the strongest of the Noldor yet he was slain by Balrogs. Fingolfin was so fearsome that all the hosts of Angband fled before him and he fought with Morgroth and wounded him severely but was defeated. Hurin Thalion slew 80 orcs and trolls and wounded many more in his final battle but he was captured and brought before Morgroth in chains. Turin Turambar slew Glaurung by his valor and cunning but was ensorcerelled and took his own life in despair and regret thereafters. Gil Galad, Elendil, Isiludur, and Elrond fought with Sauron and won but two fell in so doing and Isildur took the ring so final victory was not won. The elves, dwarves, and men of Dale fought valiantly in the battle of the Five Armies but Beorn and the eagles were what turned the tide. (And even so, the orcs were defeated and not destroyed). The battle of the Pellenor Fields was won when reinforcements enabled by the dead arrived on the field. The battle of the Moranon was won when the ring was destroyed and the enemies of the west fled.</p><p></p><p>All told, uncomplicated final victories over evil are not won by strength of arms in Middle Earth and ending the story of the Third Age that way would diminish the Middle Earth flavor that is the point of adventuring in Middle Earth.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 1543966, member: 3146"] I'm not certain that this would really work for Middle Earth. It seems like a much more Buffy the Vampire Slayer ending where the good guys win because they're bad-ass. In Middle Earth, it usually didn't work that way (unless you count the Valar and you shouldn't count them). Feanor was the strongest of the Noldor yet he was slain by Balrogs. Fingolfin was so fearsome that all the hosts of Angband fled before him and he fought with Morgroth and wounded him severely but was defeated. Hurin Thalion slew 80 orcs and trolls and wounded many more in his final battle but he was captured and brought before Morgroth in chains. Turin Turambar slew Glaurung by his valor and cunning but was ensorcerelled and took his own life in despair and regret thereafters. Gil Galad, Elendil, Isiludur, and Elrond fought with Sauron and won but two fell in so doing and Isildur took the ring so final victory was not won. The elves, dwarves, and men of Dale fought valiantly in the battle of the Five Armies but Beorn and the eagles were what turned the tide. (And even so, the orcs were defeated and not destroyed). The battle of the Pellenor Fields was won when reinforcements enabled by the dead arrived on the field. The battle of the Moranon was won when the ring was destroyed and the enemies of the west fled. All told, uncomplicated final victories over evil are not won by strength of arms in Middle Earth and ending the story of the Third Age that way would diminish the Middle Earth flavor that is the point of adventuring in Middle Earth. [/QUOTE]
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