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<blockquote data-quote="GwydapLlew" data-source="post: 3353237" data-attributes="member: 40373">Individual scouts didn't have Saruman or Sauron's spies looking for them, nor did Caradhras decide to go avalanche on them. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> My point was that we could safely ignore the difficulty involved with finding Gwaihir and Friends because Gwaihir had just rescued Gandalf, and Gandalf could have set those wheels a-turning before arriving at Rivendell.Except that a giant eagle is a great deal larger than a normal eagle, and I imagine that crebain (just as an example) could tell the difference. Also, the eagle would have been making the trip is several short hops, which also could attract attention. The Nazgul are always formless and empty unless they are given shape by their gear. The Fell Beasts existed prior to the Nazgul losing their horses; the only reason that they used horses to begin with were for stealth purposes. If we are going to allow the PCs shortcuts, then it's really only fair for the DM to do the same (see: The Disjunction Accords <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />)I can see your point; if the PCs went directly from Rivendell to Mordor via Eagle, the Nazgul may not have had time to reach Mordor and re-accoutre themselves. Even if you assume just Gwaihir and Gandalf and Frodo, though, it's not like a giant flying target with the 'Sauron is attracted to me' enhancement wouldn't draw unwanted attention. Remember, the only reason that Gorgoroth and Mount Doom were left unguarded was because of the assault by the Lords of the West upon the Black Gate.I'm just not seeing it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GwydapLlew, post: 3353237, member: 40373"] Individual scouts didn't have Saruman or Sauron's spies looking for them, nor did Caradhras decide to go avalanche on them. :) My point was that we could safely ignore the difficulty involved with finding Gwaihir and Friends because Gwaihir had just rescued Gandalf, and Gandalf could have set those wheels a-turning before arriving at Rivendell. Except that a giant eagle is a great deal larger than a normal eagle, and I imagine that [i]crebain[/i] (just as an example) could tell the difference. Also, the eagle would have been making the trip is several short hops, which also could attract attention. The Nazgul are always formless and empty unless they are given shape by their gear. The Fell Beasts existed prior to the Nazgul losing their horses; the only reason that they used horses to begin with were for stealth purposes. If we are going to allow the PCs shortcuts, then it's really only fair for the DM to do the same (see: The Disjunction Accords :)) I can see your point; if the PCs went directly from Rivendell to Mordor via Eagle, the Nazgul may not have had time to reach Mordor and re-accoutre themselves. Even if you assume just Gwaihir and Gandalf and Frodo, though, it's not like a giant flying target with the 'Sauron is attracted to me' enhancement wouldn't draw unwanted attention. Remember, the only reason that Gorgoroth and Mount Doom were left unguarded was because of the assault by the Lords of the West upon the Black Gate. I'm just not seeing it. [/QUOTE]

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