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<blockquote data-quote="William drake" data-source="post: 3353415" data-attributes="member: 49143"><p><strong>Its about staying within bounds</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>True, but the work was a Book and not a Game. It was writen for depth, and story and the journey, for the fellowship. The world is lowmagic..verylow, so we dont know if Telaport, or anything else exists. In the book, Gandalf never really used a whole lot of magic, so you can't just assume he was holding back, I mean...why? Also, you have to take into account that the story is set up with alot of things that the readers dont know about. Yes eagles, if that was the way it would've been done, that's how Tolken would have writen it. I know he didn't give a reason, and no one in the party knew or thought to ask, but perhaps they knew better, I mean Elrond and everyother Power House charcter at that meeting wern't stupid, so in a lowmagic world, I mean, the Elves arn't in some ways, even close to as powerful as D&D Elves, so you can't think they just "Looked that plan or anyother plan over" you have to go with, that was the best option.</p><p></p><p>Also, if its ever a quick fix...then its stupid, and not very dangerous or dark at all. </p><p></p><p>Now someone said something about the Ring Wraits later. Remember, their not like those from D&D and so you can't compare the two. They are less powerful, but in a lowmagic world, they are some of the nastist things ever. </p><p></p><p>The whole problem with this is that everyone answering it is using things beyond the stories contraints, and that's what you have to deal with, or not, when runing a game based on a Book. Its a low magic world...I mean, 10000 was an army "an army with a single purpose, to destroy the world of men!" Ten thousand soldiers couldn't take half the places in Forgotten Realms...LOTR is a midleages world, that has some magic..some.</p><p></p><p>I mean comeon, theres not RAISE DEAD or anything like that. *and don't go by the movie, in the book there is even less magic, and the whole battle between Gandlaf and Sarroman never takes place, oh, and when its over, when Gandlaf meets Sarroman again, in the directors cut, Sarroman thows a fireball. yeah, didn't happen the book..doesn't happen.*</p><p>The most magical people are the elves, and what they do is HEAL..thats it. </p><p></p><p>Remember, the RING is the most powerful thing in the world, and it does DOMINATE...it wouldn't be that powerful in a D&D game, perhaps some cursed iteam. </p><p></p><p>I mean, one time someone asked me, "Who would win, Gandalf or Elmenster?" I laughed. Think about it, and you will too.</p><p></p><p>so please, when you arue this..remember the bubble your in, because once you leave it, the argument is meaning less. Anything could be better if you change the world, or the rules of it. If however you can comeup with a better way, which could've been done, without stretching or breaking the likelyhood then thats fine.</p><p></p><p>This is also the reason I dont run, or game in any story based on a book, meaing you play something thats been writen or made from a movie. If you play before, or after that time, something knew then thats fine. But I wouldn't play a game where were are the heroes taking the ring into Mordor...just doesn't do it for me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="William drake, post: 3353415, member: 49143"] [b]Its about staying within bounds[/b] True, but the work was a Book and not a Game. It was writen for depth, and story and the journey, for the fellowship. The world is lowmagic..verylow, so we dont know if Telaport, or anything else exists. In the book, Gandalf never really used a whole lot of magic, so you can't just assume he was holding back, I mean...why? Also, you have to take into account that the story is set up with alot of things that the readers dont know about. Yes eagles, if that was the way it would've been done, that's how Tolken would have writen it. I know he didn't give a reason, and no one in the party knew or thought to ask, but perhaps they knew better, I mean Elrond and everyother Power House charcter at that meeting wern't stupid, so in a lowmagic world, I mean, the Elves arn't in some ways, even close to as powerful as D&D Elves, so you can't think they just "Looked that plan or anyother plan over" you have to go with, that was the best option. Also, if its ever a quick fix...then its stupid, and not very dangerous or dark at all. Now someone said something about the Ring Wraits later. Remember, their not like those from D&D and so you can't compare the two. They are less powerful, but in a lowmagic world, they are some of the nastist things ever. The whole problem with this is that everyone answering it is using things beyond the stories contraints, and that's what you have to deal with, or not, when runing a game based on a Book. Its a low magic world...I mean, 10000 was an army "an army with a single purpose, to destroy the world of men!" Ten thousand soldiers couldn't take half the places in Forgotten Realms...LOTR is a midleages world, that has some magic..some. I mean comeon, theres not RAISE DEAD or anything like that. *and don't go by the movie, in the book there is even less magic, and the whole battle between Gandlaf and Sarroman never takes place, oh, and when its over, when Gandlaf meets Sarroman again, in the directors cut, Sarroman thows a fireball. yeah, didn't happen the book..doesn't happen.* The most magical people are the elves, and what they do is HEAL..thats it. Remember, the RING is the most powerful thing in the world, and it does DOMINATE...it wouldn't be that powerful in a D&D game, perhaps some cursed iteam. I mean, one time someone asked me, "Who would win, Gandalf or Elmenster?" I laughed. Think about it, and you will too. so please, when you arue this..remember the bubble your in, because once you leave it, the argument is meaning less. Anything could be better if you change the world, or the rules of it. If however you can comeup with a better way, which could've been done, without stretching or breaking the likelyhood then thats fine. This is also the reason I dont run, or game in any story based on a book, meaing you play something thats been writen or made from a movie. If you play before, or after that time, something knew then thats fine. But I wouldn't play a game where were are the heroes taking the ring into Mordor...just doesn't do it for me. [/QUOTE]
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