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Message: <blockquote data-quote="molonel" data-source="post: 3357928" data-attributes="member: 10412">Sadly, I have demonstrated both a sense of humor and a lack of pretensiousness in this discussion. When you do, I'll let you know. But comments like this:... indicate that's probably not happening any time soon.What constitutes a legitimate answer from the text is up for grabs, however, when this is not a question Tolkien answered, either directly or indirectly.You assume that someone's understanding of the text necessarily grows with each reading. Having taught literature and theology classes, both, I assure you that sometimes fresh readers catch things that dedicated enthusiasts miss.Since you seem to admit no actual possibility of him stumbling, anywhere, I fail to see how this illuminutes the discussion in any meaningful way.No, they don't.Since I'm actually willing to agree to disagree, and you allow no possibility of error but simply insist on repeating how many times you've read the books, I see no real reason to continue this unless you're simply vying for the last shot.If that's what you want, then you are welcome to it. If I see nothing worth replying to in your next inevitable reply, I'll simply pass it over.The floor is yours, sir.</blockquote>