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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Crust" data-source="post: 3361609" data-attributes="member: 22330">I respectfully disagree.  Sauron was hoping that someone would try to use the ring against him, which would be folly.  No one can use the ring against Sauron.  To do so would spark the wielder's descent into darkness, making that wielder (whether it be Denethor, Aragorn, Gandalf, Galadriel, Smaug, whoever) the pawn of Sauron.Interesting.  I suppose since it's Gandalf pushing Frodo out the door, in that regard the Valar have decreed that Frodo is the one.  I also disagree with the idea that the elves were "running away" from the problem in Middle-earth.  In fact, it was Galadriel herself who left Valinor in order to fight evil in Middle-earth, when she could have simply stayed in Valinor and lived in peace and tranquility.Further, it's clear that the Age of Men (the 4th Age...  OUR age) was upon them, and their time had come.  The world was changing, and the elves weren't.  It was time for them to leave and pass the torch to Men.  Elves like Galadriel and Elrond were the guardians of Middle-earth (along with Istari like Gandalf, of course), and when their job was finished (the undoing of Sauron and the ring... the last vestiges of Melkor), they departed Middle-earth and left it in the capable hands of Men (specifically Aragorn, whose bloodline contained both elf and maiar ancestry).As for the eagles helping with the ring, I can make a number of assumptions concerning that:1.  Gwaihir refuses to come without pecking distance of the ring.2.  Manwe would rather not have his eagles corrupted, and thus decrees that they may not come within pecking distance of the ring.3.  I could even see Gwaihir (or some other eagle) swooping down onto Orodruin, only to succumb to the ring's power and peck Frodo to death and fly off with the ring.</blockquote>

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