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<blockquote data-quote="The Sigil" data-source="post: 536280" data-attributes="member: 2013"><p>One more thing to remember about the corrupting power of the ring...</p><p></p><p>Only two mortal creatures ever actually gave it up to another willingly. </p><p></p><p>Spoiler Alert!</p><p></p><p>1.) Bilbo Baggins (with a great deal of assistance from Gandalf)</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>.</p><p>2.) Samwise Gamgee</p><p></p><p>What do they have in common? They were both hobbits. They were both very "good" in heart. Both gave it to Frodo (who was "meant" to carry the ring). Neither sought power for himself - and important point.</p><p></p><p>In the book (not the movie), Faramir declines to take the ring because he does not wish to have power for himself. Tom Bombadil is unaffected by handling the ring as he does not want power for himself. Galadriel and Gandalf "pass the test" but not because they do not desire power for themselves, but because they are wise enough to understand that the result of that power would be their own undoing. No one save Sauron can be master of the ring - any other who wears it can be either its slave or by eschewing its temptations entirely, can be spared from slavery.</p><p></p><p>Yes, this opens the question of did Frodo want power and if so, why did he want it? But it is interesting to me to note that the only two mortals who ever let the ring go once they had it were those two and look at the qualities that allow them to resist its allure - and even they are tempted.</p><p></p><p>--The Sigil</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Sigil, post: 536280, member: 2013"] One more thing to remember about the corrupting power of the ring... Only two mortal creatures ever actually gave it up to another willingly. Spoiler Alert! 1.) Bilbo Baggins (with a great deal of assistance from Gandalf) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2.) Samwise Gamgee What do they have in common? They were both hobbits. They were both very "good" in heart. Both gave it to Frodo (who was "meant" to carry the ring). Neither sought power for himself - and important point. In the book (not the movie), Faramir declines to take the ring because he does not wish to have power for himself. Tom Bombadil is unaffected by handling the ring as he does not want power for himself. Galadriel and Gandalf "pass the test" but not because they do not desire power for themselves, but because they are wise enough to understand that the result of that power would be their own undoing. No one save Sauron can be master of the ring - any other who wears it can be either its slave or by eschewing its temptations entirely, can be spared from slavery. Yes, this opens the question of did Frodo want power and if so, why did he want it? But it is interesting to me to note that the only two mortals who ever let the ring go once they had it were those two and look at the qualities that allow them to resist its allure - and even they are tempted. --The Sigil [/QUOTE]
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