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<blockquote data-quote="tmaaas" data-source="post: 295068" data-attributes="member: 6481"><p>I wouldn't tie the power of Dol Guldur directly to the ring. If the walls and gates had been built using the ring's power, the point would be moot. While the ring survived Galadriel couldn't have cast down the walls, and when the ring was destroyed it would have automatically resulted in the fall of Dol Guldur without Galadriel's intervention.</p><p></p><p>Instead, I attribute Dol Guldur to a work of evil independent of the ring. Sauron used the stronghold after his defeat by Gil-galad and Elendil and strengthened it via the Nazgul and the One, but its original power did not depend on the ring and was not directly tied to it. </p><p></p><p>After the One was destroyed, both Dol Guldur's and Lothlorien's powers were diminished, but Dol Guldur's more. The valor of the Elves under Celeborn and the innate power of Galadriel where then sufficient to overthrow it.</p><p></p><p>I was just pointing out that there was precedent for fortress walls/gates in Middle Earth having powerful enchantments protecting them, and that destroying the enchantment also resulted in destruction of the structure.</p><p></p><p>This is all just a rationalization as to why Galadriel had to be the one destroying Dol Guldur and how she did it. Having her use evocation-style magics is one possible explanation, but it just doesn't seem to fit right.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tmaaas, post: 295068, member: 6481"] I wouldn't tie the power of Dol Guldur directly to the ring. If the walls and gates had been built using the ring's power, the point would be moot. While the ring survived Galadriel couldn't have cast down the walls, and when the ring was destroyed it would have automatically resulted in the fall of Dol Guldur without Galadriel's intervention. Instead, I attribute Dol Guldur to a work of evil independent of the ring. Sauron used the stronghold after his defeat by Gil-galad and Elendil and strengthened it via the Nazgul and the One, but its original power did not depend on the ring and was not directly tied to it. After the One was destroyed, both Dol Guldur's and Lothlorien's powers were diminished, but Dol Guldur's more. The valor of the Elves under Celeborn and the innate power of Galadriel where then sufficient to overthrow it. I was just pointing out that there was precedent for fortress walls/gates in Middle Earth having powerful enchantments protecting them, and that destroying the enchantment also resulted in destruction of the structure. This is all just a rationalization as to why Galadriel had to be the one destroying Dol Guldur and how she did it. Having her use evocation-style magics is one possible explanation, but it just doesn't seem to fit right. [/QUOTE]
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