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<blockquote data-quote="mmadsen" data-source="post: 295923" data-attributes="member: 1645">What, you didn't go see the movie in theaters?&nbsp; Many of those people didn't read the books at all, and probably don't even count as casual fans, but many have read the trilogy once or twice -- or read it for the first time after seeing the movie.&nbsp; I'd consider those casual fans.I guess our experiences are very, very different then.&nbsp; I know plenty of people who enjoyed the books, but only read them once or twice -- the way most people read entertaining books.Now certainly the people discussing LotR (and using the abbreviation &quot;LotR&quot;) on-line are either fanatics (pro) or trolls (con), but that doesn't say much for the population as a whole.Even on a fantasy RPG site like this one, it's very difficult for the average LotR fan, the casual kind, to even engage in a conversation like the one you're having.&nbsp; As I said, &quot;How many casual fans of The Lord of the Rings even know Gandalf wasn't supposed to be human?&quot;I don't disagree at all, and I don't mean to disparage Tolkien fans at all, but I think a hardcore fan tends to underestimate just how far removed his concerns are from the casual fan's.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mmadsen, post: 295923, member: 1645"] What, you didn't go see the movie in theaters? Many of those people didn't read the books at all, and probably don't even count as casual fans, but many have read the trilogy once or twice -- or read it for the first time after seeing the movie. I'd consider those casual fans. I guess our experiences are very, very different then. I know plenty of people who enjoyed the books, but only read them once or twice -- the way most people read entertaining books. Now certainly the people discussing LotR (and using the abbreviation "LotR") on-line are either fanatics (pro) or trolls (con), but that doesn't say much for the population as a whole. Even on a fantasy RPG site like this one, it's very difficult for the average LotR fan, the casual kind, to even engage in a conversation like the one you're having. As I said, "How many casual fans of The Lord of the Rings even know Gandalf wasn't supposed to be human?" I don't disagree at all, and I don't mean to disparage Tolkien fans at all, but I think a hardcore fan tends to underestimate just how far removed his concerns are from the casual fan's. [/QUOTE]

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