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<blockquote data-quote="Green Knight" data-source="post: 4196278" data-attributes="member: 2723"><p>Two points. </p><p> </p><p>1) What you describe is true of 3.5. Mike the Wizard, after multiclassing to Rogue, is still an 8th-level Wizard. Unless he gets level drained or burns an inordinate amount of XP on creating magic items, he'll be an 8th-level Wizard til the end of time. </p><p> </p><p>2) Mike the Wizard would, in fact, see his spellcasting atrophy in 4E. Say he's 7th-level. He decides he wants to learn Rogue skills, so at 8th-level he takes the Sneak of Shadows Feat. He now has the Sneak skill and can Sneak Attack once per Encounter. </p><p> </p><p>He levels up to 9th-level and, through Feat Retraining, selects the Novice Power Feat. He can now select a Rogue Exploit, substituting it for a Spell. He opts for a 7th-level Rogue Exploit. In the process, he loses a 7th-level Spell. His spellcasting just atrophied, as he's no longer as powerful a spellcaster as he was. </p><p> </p><p>He reaches 10th-level and chooses the Acolyte Power Feat, while taking Adept Power through retraining. Mike the Wizard can now take one Rogue Daily Power and Rogue Utility Power, at the expense of his Wizard Powers. So once again, his skills as a Wizard drop, as he loses a 9th-Level Daily Spell and a 10th-Level Utility Spell, and gains a 9th-Level Daily Exploit and 10th-Level Utility Exploit in their place. </p><p> </p><p>So Mike the Wizard is, in fact, not as powerful a Wizard as he used to be, as he's lost three spells in favor of his new Rogue abilities. The same wouldn't be true of 3.5 Mike the Wizard, who will always have the same Wizard abilities no matter what.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Green Knight, post: 4196278, member: 2723"] Two points. 1) What you describe is true of 3.5. Mike the Wizard, after multiclassing to Rogue, is still an 8th-level Wizard. Unless he gets level drained or burns an inordinate amount of XP on creating magic items, he'll be an 8th-level Wizard til the end of time. 2) Mike the Wizard would, in fact, see his spellcasting atrophy in 4E. Say he's 7th-level. He decides he wants to learn Rogue skills, so at 8th-level he takes the Sneak of Shadows Feat. He now has the Sneak skill and can Sneak Attack once per Encounter. He levels up to 9th-level and, through Feat Retraining, selects the Novice Power Feat. He can now select a Rogue Exploit, substituting it for a Spell. He opts for a 7th-level Rogue Exploit. In the process, he loses a 7th-level Spell. His spellcasting just atrophied, as he's no longer as powerful a spellcaster as he was. He reaches 10th-level and chooses the Acolyte Power Feat, while taking Adept Power through retraining. Mike the Wizard can now take one Rogue Daily Power and Rogue Utility Power, at the expense of his Wizard Powers. So once again, his skills as a Wizard drop, as he loses a 9th-Level Daily Spell and a 10th-Level Utility Spell, and gains a 9th-Level Daily Exploit and 10th-Level Utility Exploit in their place. So Mike the Wizard is, in fact, not as powerful a Wizard as he used to be, as he's lost three spells in favor of his new Rogue abilities. The same wouldn't be true of 3.5 Mike the Wizard, who will always have the same Wizard abilities no matter what. [/QUOTE]
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