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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4198241" data-attributes="member: 40961">Celebrim's concern was that a new player would make a poor decision in selecting a multiclass power, and come to regret it.  The proper response was to point out that 4e has feat retraining.  This is no different than any other situation where a character chose a selectable ability poorly, and regretted it.The complaint wasn't that multiclassing inherently made the character weaker, it was that a player who didn't know the system very well picked his multiclassing poorly, resulting in a weaker character.  Celebrim was not denying that 4e multiclassing was capable of good outcomes, he was expressing a concern for those situations where it does not, and how that applies to newer players.As for whether 4e multiclassing makes a character weaker?  I don't think it does.  Certainly there are ways you could multiclass poorly and end up with a weaker character- a Fighter who multiclasses into Rogue and trades out one of his per encounter abilities for the ability to do 2[W]+Dex with a light blade is probably making a poor decision if he has a better Str than Dex, and usually fights with a heavy ax.  And it sucks for that guy that he spent a feat in order to choose powers that were worse than what he began with.But that doesn't mean that all combinations are weak.A Warlord might want to pick up a Wizard power that synergizes with his leadership abilities or his battlefield control.  A rogue might want to pick up a ranged Ranger power to diversify his melee based portfolio.  A Warlock might want a hold-out melee power from the Rogue list for when he can't slip away.  There are a lot of options where having A and B at the cost of a feat is better than, or at least equal to, having A1 and A2 while retaining the feat.</blockquote>

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