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<blockquote data-quote="Dogbrain" data-source="post: 1639869" data-attributes="member: 14980">The guy wearing the chain shirt has a distinct advantage.&nbsp; This was well-known in the days of the duel, which is why professional swordmasters warned their students to make sure that their opponents proved that they were not wearing concealed armor, and the amount of armor that could be concealed under a padded doublet could be fairly considerable.&nbsp; There was loss of speed and mobility, but men whose lives depended on the matter considered the benefits of armor to outweigh the liabilities.&nbsp; Non-use of armor in duels was a matter of social convention, and only the monumentally ignorant would conclude that the rapier or &quot;swashbuckling&quot; could somehow &quot;defeat&quot; the armor of its day or that a &quot;swashbuckler&quot; was somehow innately better protected against the threat posed by his enemy than would be a man in armor.Armor was NOT defeated by the rapier, it was defeated by the gun.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dogbrain, post: 1639869, member: 14980"] The guy wearing the chain shirt has a distinct advantage. This was well-known in the days of the duel, which is why professional swordmasters warned their students to make sure that their opponents proved that they were not wearing concealed armor, and the amount of armor that could be concealed under a padded doublet could be fairly considerable. There was loss of speed and mobility, but men whose lives depended on the matter considered the benefits of armor to outweigh the liabilities. Non-use of armor in duels was a matter of social convention, and only the monumentally ignorant would conclude that the rapier or "swashbuckling" could somehow "defeat" the armor of its day or that a "swashbuckler" was somehow innately better protected against the threat posed by his enemy than would be a man in armor. Armor was NOT defeated by the rapier, it was defeated by the gun. [/QUOTE]

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