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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 6989286" data-attributes="member: 15700">That's completely subjective, and probably your personal opinion.&nbsp; What isn't subjective is that he has been involved in highly controversial discussions.&nbsp; So using his definition doesn't carry as much weight as you would like it to be.Really?&nbsp; Then I'd be interested in you pointing out my quotes where I said exactly what I qualify as role-playing.&nbsp; I've listed a few things are are considered qualifiers (certainly not all things), but never actually said what is required to be considered a TTRPG.&nbsp; I have said what ISN'T roleplaying in a TTRPG (playing monsters/NPCs as game pieces on a board that cannot do anything other than what's explicitly listed in the statblock), but I've never listed what the definition and requirements are to be considered a TTRPG.&nbsp; My biggest argument is based on how the industry as a whole defines each type of game.&nbsp; Wrath of A is not considered a role playing game, so if you play D&amp;D exactly like you play Wrath of A with no other elements of role-playing, then that's playing a boardgame.&nbsp; That is a position I have said that you will find.&nbsp; This distinction isn't my opinion, or your opinion, because opinions don't matter.&nbsp; You can call a tomato a vegetable all you want, but that doesn't make it so.&nbsp; I am using the only objective metric we have available to us.&nbsp; You are doing nothing but saying personal preference and opinion.I am convinced at this point that you wouldn't have nearly the disagreements with me that you do if you actually addressed what I said, rather than constantly making up argument and positions in your head that I never made.&nbsp; I'm still waiting for you to show quotes of me saying what you accused me of earlier.&nbsp; I suppose I should expect never to see them?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 6989286, member: 15700"] That's completely subjective, and probably your personal opinion. What isn't subjective is that he has been involved in highly controversial discussions. So using his definition doesn't carry as much weight as you would like it to be. Really? Then I'd be interested in you pointing out my quotes where I said exactly what I qualify as role-playing. I've listed a few things are are considered qualifiers (certainly not all things), but never actually said what is required to be considered a TTRPG. I have said what ISN'T roleplaying in a TTRPG (playing monsters/NPCs as game pieces on a board that cannot do anything other than what's explicitly listed in the statblock), but I've never listed what the definition and requirements are to be considered a TTRPG. My biggest argument is based on how the industry as a whole defines each type of game. Wrath of A is not considered a role playing game, so if you play D&D exactly like you play Wrath of A with no other elements of role-playing, then that's playing a boardgame. That is a position I have said that you will find. This distinction isn't my opinion, or your opinion, because opinions don't matter. You can call a tomato a vegetable all you want, but that doesn't make it so. I am using the only objective metric we have available to us. You are doing nothing but saying personal preference and opinion. I am convinced at this point that you wouldn't have nearly the disagreements with me that you do if you actually addressed what I said, rather than constantly making up argument and positions in your head that I never made. I'm still waiting for you to show quotes of me saying what you accused me of earlier. I suppose I should expect never to see them? [/QUOTE]

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