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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 6991148" data-attributes="member: 15700">Exactly.&nbsp; That's my point.&nbsp; I'm using the industry universal definition of what a TTRPG is, and you made the argument that Vincent Baker disagrees*, so I must be wrong.&nbsp; My point is that I don't care WHO makes an opinion, it doesn't change how the game is defined.&nbsp; Trump is very influential in politics, but just because he thinks climate change is a Chinese conspiracy doesn't mean it is.&nbsp; I'm an award winning RPG designer myself too, so that means my opinion is more important than other peoples?&nbsp; Of course not.&nbsp; Despite my caution above, you still seem to think that opinion should be held on the same level as fact.*Which is an odd claim to make, since you're saying he disagrees with a position that I never defined my personal opinion on to begin with.&nbsp; So unless you're telepathic and can read my mind, how would you know what he disagrees with me on, and on what level?There have been examples provided.&nbsp; CaptZapps' thread from the other day for example.&nbsp; You were part of that thread, so you must be aware of it.Also, the replies in this thread.&nbsp; People didn't say they weren't &quot;excited or interested&quot; about the improv'd ideas, they said it (improve ideas) won't happen because it's not better than the standard DPR attack and therefore all the ogre will do is base attack.&nbsp; Several people have literally described their play with an ogre as nothing more than a bag of HP that doesn't do anything but base attack every round.&nbsp; We've even had people flat out say that the flavor text of the ogre has no impact in the combat encounter at all.&nbsp; The way people have described their play is no different than how one plays Wrath of A or any other D&amp;D boardgame.So far, you've repeatedly ignored the arguments people have made, saying you aren't aware of them happening despite you being a participant in them, and have accused me several times of making an argument that I never made and have yet to provide me a quote of me making them as I asked.I can only assume that you have no intention of having an honest conversation since you keep doing this, so there's no point in continuing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 6991148, member: 15700"] Exactly. That's my point. I'm using the industry universal definition of what a TTRPG is, and you made the argument that Vincent Baker disagrees*, so I must be wrong. My point is that I don't care WHO makes an opinion, it doesn't change how the game is defined. Trump is very influential in politics, but just because he thinks climate change is a Chinese conspiracy doesn't mean it is. [I]I'm[/I] an award winning RPG designer myself too, so that means my opinion is more important than other peoples? Of course not. Despite my caution above, you still seem to think that opinion should be held on the same level as fact. *Which is an odd claim to make, since you're saying he disagrees with a position that I never defined my personal opinion on to begin with. So unless you're telepathic and can read my mind, how would you know what he disagrees with me on, and on what level? There have been examples provided. CaptZapps' thread from the other day for example. You were part of that thread, so you must be aware of it. Also, the replies in this thread. People didn't say they weren't "excited or interested" about the improv'd ideas, they said [I]it (improve ideas) won't happen because it's not better than the standard DPR attack and therefore all the ogre will do is base attack[/I]. Several people have literally described their play with an ogre as nothing more than a bag of HP that doesn't do anything but base attack every round. We've even had people flat out say that the flavor text of the ogre has no impact in the combat encounter at all. The way people have described their play is no different than how one plays Wrath of A or any other D&D boardgame. So far, you've repeatedly ignored the arguments people have made, saying you aren't aware of them happening despite you being a participant in them, and have accused me several times of making an argument that I never made and have yet to provide me a quote of me making them as I asked. I can only assume that you have no intention of having an honest conversation since you keep doing this, so there's no point in continuing. [/QUOTE]

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