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<blockquote data-quote="MostlyDm" data-source="post: 6992118" data-attributes="member: 6788973">You're right, my bad.Better hope nobody makes doors out of Iron in your Heroic Tier instanced zones, though.&nbsp; Yikes!&nbsp; Sorry, that was more sarcasm.&nbsp; I liked several things about 4e, but the leveling world was definitely a huge downer for me. Having a dozen different levels of orc or demon minions was the same sort of issue in my mind.&nbsp; At level 5 all doors you encounter are made of wood and orc minions are all Level 5 Orc Shmucks.&nbsp; At level 18, doors are made of iron and orc minions are level 18 Orc Badasses.&nbsp; And at level 29, doors are made of adamantine and orc minions are level 29 Infernal Orc Legionnaires.It felt very much like inconsistency in the fiction. The world is designed to scale up with you in a straightforward, linear fashion.&nbsp; This had been an issue in 3.x as well, but it seemed to become even more exaggerated in 4e.But I think 4e-bashing is pretty frowned upon, and I don't want to start a big thing over it.&nbsp; I'm glad 4e works so well for its fans.&nbsp; I really do think they had some good ideas, and I see lots of 4e influences in 5e, which is great.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MostlyDm, post: 6992118, member: 6788973"] You're right, my bad. Better hope nobody makes doors out of Iron in your Heroic Tier instanced zones, though. Yikes! Sorry, that was more sarcasm. I liked several things about 4e, but the leveling world was definitely a huge downer for me. Having a dozen different levels of orc or demon minions was the same sort of issue in my mind. At level 5 all doors you encounter are made of wood and orc minions are all Level 5 Orc Shmucks. At level 18, doors are made of iron and orc minions are level 18 Orc Badasses. And at level 29, doors are made of adamantine and orc minions are level 29 Infernal Orc Legionnaires. It felt very much like inconsistency in the fiction. The world is designed to scale up with you in a straightforward, linear fashion. This had been an issue in 3.x as well, but it seemed to become even more exaggerated in 4e. But I think 4e-bashing is pretty frowned upon, and I don't want to start a big thing over it. I'm glad 4e works so well for its fans. I really do think they had some good ideas, and I see lots of 4e influences in 5e, which is great. [/QUOTE]

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