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<blockquote data-quote="neogod22" data-source="post: 7380959" data-attributes="member: 6857879"><p>So here is where you're off base.&nbsp; 1.&nbsp; No one in tier 1 is going through 4 combats in a day, let alone before a short rest.&nbsp; The party would die.&nbsp; There aren't enough resources.&nbsp; 2.&nbsp; If the druid is tanking, he's probably not going to come out of wild shape just to cast 1 spell, that just sounds dumb.&nbsp; 3. Small combats, he may not decide to wild shape.&nbsp; There are plenty of combats that I don't.&nbsp; I've even played whole adventures when I decided just to be a caster.&nbsp; 4. If he does decide to come out of wild shape to cast spells, well, he's a caster, he will have plenty of spell slots at higher level.&nbsp; 5. Who cares what you've read what the optimal shapes are, I think I've turned into a polar bear once.&nbsp; Most druids transform to fit the situation.&nbsp; 6.&nbsp; How do they have weak concentration?&nbsp; Usually their animal forms have pretty good Con.&nbsp; Also, they can take the war caster feat to give themselves advantage.&nbsp; 7. Wild shape lasts in hours equal to half your level, so you can, short rest and overlap shapes.&nbsp; You say you've played a druid to 13th lvl, but you sound like you've read how to play a druid off a forum. You don't sound credible at all.&nbsp; So I'll leave it at that.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="neogod22, post: 7380959, member: 6857879"] So here is where you're off base. 1. No one in tier 1 is going through 4 combats in a day, let alone before a short rest. The party would die. There aren't enough resources. 2. If the druid is tanking, he's probably not going to come out of wild shape just to cast 1 spell, that just sounds dumb. 3. Small combats, he may not decide to wild shape. There are plenty of combats that I don't. I've even played whole adventures when I decided just to be a caster. 4. If he does decide to come out of wild shape to cast spells, well, he's a caster, he will have plenty of spell slots at higher level. 5. Who cares what you've read what the optimal shapes are, I think I've turned into a polar bear once. Most druids transform to fit the situation. 6. How do they have weak concentration? Usually their animal forms have pretty good Con. Also, they can take the war caster feat to give themselves advantage. 7. Wild shape lasts in hours equal to half your level, so you can, short rest and overlap shapes. You say you've played a druid to 13th lvl, but you sound like you've read how to play a druid off a forum. You don't sound credible at all. So I'll leave it at that. [/QUOTE]

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