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<blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 3650162" data-attributes="member: 13966"><p>Your party's really not set up to handle this kind of encounter normally.</p><p></p><p>I'd recommend replacing the swarm with a different monster of equal CR, or giving the group something they could use against it. I don't think Burning Hands is on any of your PCs' spell lists, is it? If not, then they'd need a high Use Magic Device check (or probably a few such checks, actually) to make a Burning Hands scroll work.</p><p></p><p>There are no 1st or 2nd level martial maneuvers I can think of that produce an area attack; the earliest maneuver I know of is Death Mark, which is 3rd level Desert Wind, and requires strking a creature first (I don't know if it even works against a swarm, unless you strke someone else that is adjacent to the swarm, since Death Mark causes a burst of fire to spread from the stricken target).</p><p></p><p>Always keep in mind that modules of any sort typically assume your party consists of a typical Fighter or reasonable substitute (tough guy with good AC and good to high damage output every round, capable in melee, good Fortitude, and probably possessing Cleave or similar), a typical Rogue or reasonable substitute (sneaky guy with decent combat ability, most capable at ambushes and teamwork in battle, good Reflex, can handle traps and junk, good listen/search/spot), a typical Cleric or reasonable substitute (all-around decent combatant, effective and frequent restorative abilities for the group, good divinations, very effective at handling undead, fairly effective at handling outsiders), and a typical Wizard or reasonable substitute (versatile spellcaster that can handle miscellaneous problems or challenges, effective blaster, good buffer for the group, especially for enhancing mobility and senses).</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, Burning Hands isn't that great (getting so close is really really bad for Mr. 4-HP Mage), so it's not even that often found with mages. There really needs to be more low-level area attack spells. :\</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arkhandus, post: 3650162, member: 13966"] Your party's really not set up to handle this kind of encounter normally. I'd recommend replacing the swarm with a different monster of equal CR, or giving the group something they could use against it. I don't think Burning Hands is on any of your PCs' spell lists, is it? If not, then they'd need a high Use Magic Device check (or probably a few such checks, actually) to make a Burning Hands scroll work. There are no 1st or 2nd level martial maneuvers I can think of that produce an area attack; the earliest maneuver I know of is Death Mark, which is 3rd level Desert Wind, and requires strking a creature first (I don't know if it even works against a swarm, unless you strke someone else that is adjacent to the swarm, since Death Mark causes a burst of fire to spread from the stricken target). Always keep in mind that modules of any sort typically assume your party consists of a typical Fighter or reasonable substitute (tough guy with good AC and good to high damage output every round, capable in melee, good Fortitude, and probably possessing Cleave or similar), a typical Rogue or reasonable substitute (sneaky guy with decent combat ability, most capable at ambushes and teamwork in battle, good Reflex, can handle traps and junk, good listen/search/spot), a typical Cleric or reasonable substitute (all-around decent combatant, effective and frequent restorative abilities for the group, good divinations, very effective at handling undead, fairly effective at handling outsiders), and a typical Wizard or reasonable substitute (versatile spellcaster that can handle miscellaneous problems or challenges, effective blaster, good buffer for the group, especially for enhancing mobility and senses). Unfortunately, Burning Hands isn't that great (getting so close is really really bad for Mr. 4-HP Mage), so it's not even that often found with mages. There really needs to be more low-level area attack spells. :\ [/QUOTE]
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