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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6428992" data-attributes="member: 2011">Sure.I'm kind of wondering why your DM is creating the perfect enemy placements for your PCs though.[code]With enemies arranged thus and squares, and moving to the outside next to the Paladin:. 1 2 3 .. f . p wthe burning hands area is:aa a a a a .f . p wBut why is your DM is setting this up with this first so that the wizard can move next to the paladin?. 1 2 3 .. f . p .[/code]I don't quite understand why your DM is making this type of thing so easy for you.Unless a room is exactly 20 or 25 feet wide (wide enough for the wizard to get next to the fighter and paladin), why are the enemies bunching up in a perfect burning hands position?In a narrow area where the wizard cannot get next to the paladin:[code]With enemies arranged thus and squares (and wall squares x):x 1 2 3 xx f . p xx . . . xx . w . xthe burning hands area is:x . a a a  the spell does not go into the wall, just showing this for illustrative purposesx . a a xx f a p xx . w . xor:a a a . xx a a . xx f a p xx . w . xor even with a generous DM:x a a a xx a a . xx f a p xx . w . xIn all 3 cases, only 2 foes in a 3 foe line can be hit.[/code]In a wider area where the wizard has not yet moved next to the paladin:[code]With the following setup of foes, the NPCs can go from:. 1 2 3 .. f . p .. . w . .to:. f 2 p .. 1 w 3 .without provoking. Or even:. 1 2 3 .. f . p .. . . . .. . w . .to:. . . . .. f . p .. 1 2 3 .. . w . .with 1 and 3 moving around the outside, and 2 moving up the middle.[/code]It's really hard to hold a line in 5E. The last two examples of enemies moving through or around the gap shenanigans were not possible in 3E or 4E. But if your DM lets you create gaps without taking advantage of them and sets up foes to fight in a line, then yes, it will seem easier.My DM is a high school aged kid who lives and breathes D&D tactics and has for the last 5 years playing the game. She would definitely take advantage of a gap defense and only with low int foes have three of them move up and fight a line with a fighter and paladin (shy of a small room). She does do lesser tactics for dumber foes, but NPCs moving up to hold lines is pretty rare.Our fights tend to be chaotic messes where a line almost never happens unless we are talking very small rooms. And my experience with 5E and small rooms is that spell area placement is hard.</blockquote>

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