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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6429067" data-attributes="member: 2011">I do not recall feeling so "less useful" in earlier editions. Is it possible that the other classes are "more useful" in 5E (10+ points of damage would have been more rare in 1E to 3E, it happens from one or more PCs in the group nearly every single round now)?Granted, my memory is weak with age, but even so, I remember having a lot of fun with wizards. It has always been my favorite class until now. Maybe I should have taken the Sleep spell. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" />When I look at Scorching Ray and envision a lucky two rounds hitting with 6D6 damage on round one Scorching Ray and D8 damage on round two with Chill Touch, I think "Wow, I can do 26.5 average points of damage". I then realize that with using a once per encounter ability, the Fighter can do two attacks for a total of 4D6 (reroll ones)+6+D8 or 26.2 points of damage and had advantage on one of the two attacks.I had 4 attack rolls to make, he had 2 attack rolls one having advantage. I used up a Daily spell. He used up an Encounter ability. We did the same effective damage. He can do this 4 times between short rests, I can do this 4 times per day (if I am lucky enough to hit that often).Granted, he is in melee, but still. I do something that for my PC is amazing and for his PC is fairly pedestrian with minor resource use. It happens many times a day for him day in and day out, I'm lucky if I roll great and it happens once per day for my PC out of 4 attempts. And the Rogue does this level of damage in two rounds about half of the time without using up any resources.Not feeling the wizard love here from WotC. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" />Agreed. I don't need to shine all of the time. I just need to contribute somewhat when I cast a spell. It often doesn't happen.Me: "I cast Fog Cloud around us to protect the other PCs."DM: "It doesn't help. The enemies knew which hexes the PCs were in and the spell doesn't affect their to hit at all. Advantage cancels out disadvantage. And, the PCs are now at disadvantage to attack."Me: "WT?"</blockquote>

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