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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6430697" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>"Correctly" here is subjective. Most of what you describe isn't actually using the spell, but playing with a DM that is very amendable to the use of stunts in game. "Stunts" are when you do something creative to obtain advantages outside of the rules. Some DMs disallow stunts at all. Some DMs treat stunts as color that have no mechanical effect. Some DMs allow stunts, but only if you pass some sort of additional hurdle that makes the stunt risky. Some DMs, like yours, allow stunts off all sorts because they like the effect they have on the narrative. But claiming that the above is playing the wizard correctly, is like claiming that jumping on a barrel and rolling it down the stairs while balancing on it, and then jumping up and grabbing the chandelier to launch a swinging kick before back flipping off of it use your weight to thrust your rapier down into the neck of the ogre is playing your rogue properly. </p><p></p><p>Personally, I like stunts, but I'm more of the assume risk to again advantage style of DM. The stunts you describe would generally be allowed, but would require you passing some sort of additional check with failure indicating your action wasted. </p><p></p><p>In other words, you Ice Blasted the stairs you'd just dumped the bucket of water on with magic hand, but the cold was insufficient to form ice over a large area or at all, or the being wet and standing in the puddle meant that instead of grounding through the body of the kobold leader (the default situation is not that the leader is ungrounded entirely!) the electricity grounded through his clothing reducing the damage he took instead of increasing it, or that you tried to dump the boiling water on the leader but misjudged the distance and timing in the melee and dumped it instead on the floor, and so forth. Some of your stunts strike me as really difficult to pull off consistently, and notably I suspect that if this was the DM using NPC wizards to pull them off on PCs, you'd be less impressed by the fairness of the rulings.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6430697, member: 4937"] "Correctly" here is subjective. Most of what you describe isn't actually using the spell, but playing with a DM that is very amendable to the use of stunts in game. "Stunts" are when you do something creative to obtain advantages outside of the rules. Some DMs disallow stunts at all. Some DMs treat stunts as color that have no mechanical effect. Some DMs allow stunts, but only if you pass some sort of additional hurdle that makes the stunt risky. Some DMs, like yours, allow stunts off all sorts because they like the effect they have on the narrative. But claiming that the above is playing the wizard correctly, is like claiming that jumping on a barrel and rolling it down the stairs while balancing on it, and then jumping up and grabbing the chandelier to launch a swinging kick before back flipping off of it use your weight to thrust your rapier down into the neck of the ogre is playing your rogue properly. Personally, I like stunts, but I'm more of the assume risk to again advantage style of DM. The stunts you describe would generally be allowed, but would require you passing some sort of additional check with failure indicating your action wasted. In other words, you Ice Blasted the stairs you'd just dumped the bucket of water on with magic hand, but the cold was insufficient to form ice over a large area or at all, or the being wet and standing in the puddle meant that instead of grounding through the body of the kobold leader (the default situation is not that the leader is ungrounded entirely!) the electricity grounded through his clothing reducing the damage he took instead of increasing it, or that you tried to dump the boiling water on the leader but misjudged the distance and timing in the melee and dumped it instead on the floor, and so forth. Some of your stunts strike me as really difficult to pull off consistently, and notably I suspect that if this was the DM using NPC wizards to pull them off on PCs, you'd be less impressed by the fairness of the rulings. [/QUOTE]
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