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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hayek" data-source="post: 6433756" data-attributes="member: 53760">For me, this is most definitely a feature not a bug. What's the point of a social/charismatic/face character if all of your social skills are completely out-classed by a simple 1st level wizard spell. I found Charm Person in past editions to be ridiculously over-powered, most importantly in destroying the niche of any social character.Player: "I use my wiles and charms to sidle up to the guard, trying to get a read on whether he's the type that might take to a bribe or a plea for-" DM: "Sorry, he's already the drooling puppy dog of the ugly, crotchety wizard. Did you think your character was supposed to help out in social interactions? Ha, no... silly player. You have someone in the party capable of casting a 1st level wizard spell... Your social skills aren't needed here. Glad you put all those resources into them, though."Beyond trampling other players, it always seemed way overpowered in general - there's no point (or at least no tension) in a social interaction scene when the wizard can just charm anyone that needs persuading. At best it becomes not a social interaction scene, and just a 'did he make his saving throw' moment - yes, success! no, fight!I find this new version a fantastic compromise, just like the Knock spell, which used to demolish any purpose to the rogue being able to pick locks. Now with both Knock and Charm Person, the wizard can offer an interesting, but limited, shortcut to these problems, but in most situations they're ideally left to the character whose specialty it is to handle such matters.</blockquote>

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