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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6517890" data-attributes="member: 6787650"><p>First you say it's a contrived scenario tilted toward Web. Then you say Web is "not that impressive." Make up your mind! I don't mean that in a harsh way, but it has to be one or the other.</p><p></p><p>Wall of Fire is good, but it's twice as expensive as Web, and it doesn't deny movement, it just inflicts some damage. (It might work against trolls because they hate fire and wouldn't want to take that damage, but it might not.) Web however inflicts the Restrained condition so they can't just ignore it and overbear you, they have to deal with it. Fireball... is relatively meh in this scenario--unless you throw multiple Fireballs, which is expensive, the trolls will just regenerate the damage round after next. At least that's what happens when I game this out: it takes 2 rounds or more to kill each troll, so by the time you're actually killing the third troll the Fireball no longer affects him at all.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're overestimating damage output. Paladin is doing 10 to 15-ish points of damage per round (depending on build), wizard does about 7 points of damage per round, sharpshooter does 30 points of damage if heavily optimized w/ Crossbow Expert (cheesey interpretation to get 3 attacks per round) + Sharpshooter, druid does 14 points of damage... you'll be lucky to kill one troll per round even with the Crossbow Expert cheese, unless you use spells like Web/Faerie Fire to gain advantage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6517890, member: 6787650"] First you say it's a contrived scenario tilted toward Web. Then you say Web is "not that impressive." Make up your mind! I don't mean that in a harsh way, but it has to be one or the other. Wall of Fire is good, but it's twice as expensive as Web, and it doesn't deny movement, it just inflicts some damage. (It might work against trolls because they hate fire and wouldn't want to take that damage, but it might not.) Web however inflicts the Restrained condition so they can't just ignore it and overbear you, they have to deal with it. Fireball... is relatively meh in this scenario--unless you throw multiple Fireballs, which is expensive, the trolls will just regenerate the damage round after next. At least that's what happens when I game this out: it takes 2 rounds or more to kill each troll, so by the time you're actually killing the third troll the Fireball no longer affects him at all. You're overestimating damage output. Paladin is doing 10 to 15-ish points of damage per round (depending on build), wizard does about 7 points of damage per round, sharpshooter does 30 points of damage if heavily optimized w/ Crossbow Expert (cheesey interpretation to get 3 attacks per round) + Sharpshooter, druid does 14 points of damage... you'll be lucky to kill one troll per round even with the Crossbow Expert cheese, unless you use spells like Web/Faerie Fire to gain advantage. [/QUOTE]
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