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Low Level Wizards Really Do Suck in 5E
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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6518080" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Oops. You are right. Off the top of my head, I got the disadvantage perception confused with the disadvantaged attack.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So two trolls could engage at once??? At least half of the trolls were hors de combat without web.</p><p></p><p>So you set up a scenario where only two trolls could attack at the same time and you kept them fighting in a web spell so that they would have to make the saving throw every round and set it up so that the five trolls were too stupid to realize that fighting inside a spell area of effect was a major mistake. zzzzzzzzzz Did the trolls pull any of the front line PCs through the web? Did the trolls who couldn't attack throw rocks or go get more reinforcements? Talk about contrived.</p><p></p><p>I can't believe you went to all that trouble and still proved nothing other than the fact that web can be a great spell, but there are virtually no other first or second or even third level wizard spells that could be set up to do this, so wizard players are still stuck with spamming web at low level. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></p><p></p><p>Yup, those low level wizards are real versatile if the players want to be effective in combat. Sleep at first level. Web at second. Got it. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/glasses.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="B-)" title="Glasses B-)" data-shortname="B-)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 6518080, member: 2011"] Oops. You are right. Off the top of my head, I got the disadvantage perception confused with the disadvantaged attack. So two trolls could engage at once??? At least half of the trolls were hors de combat without web. So you set up a scenario where only two trolls could attack at the same time and you kept them fighting in a web spell so that they would have to make the saving throw every round and set it up so that the five trolls were too stupid to realize that fighting inside a spell area of effect was a major mistake. zzzzzzzzzz Did the trolls pull any of the front line PCs through the web? Did the trolls who couldn't attack throw rocks or go get more reinforcements? Talk about contrived. I can't believe you went to all that trouble and still proved nothing other than the fact that web can be a great spell, but there are virtually no other first or second or even third level wizard spells that could be set up to do this, so wizard players are still stuck with spamming web at low level. :lol: Yup, those low level wizards are real versatile if the players want to be effective in combat. Sleep at first level. Web at second. Got it. B-) [/QUOTE]
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