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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6519109" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>I think that the Naga targeted my PC the first time because I had webbed it. The DM probably thought web might be a threat. Getting restrained can end up messing up spells. It also got a second PC in that attack. It's actually pretty easy to get 2 PCs out of 6 PCs in a straight line.</p><p></p><p>The Naga targeted my PC the second time because the movement of combat ended up with 4 PCs and 1 NPC basically in a straight line. So, the Naga got as many foes (and one undead ally) in a single bolt. Rare, but the other players did not make the best decisions with regard to this (and the web was still in play, so it limited some of the squares PCs could go into and still melee attack)..</p><p></p><p>The DM did not have it out for me, it was just bad luck overall.</p><p></p><p>And, this encounter has nothing to do with why the wizard sucks at low level other than yet another illustration as to how web sounds good on paper, but it doesn't always work out as well in practice. I managed to get the Naga, two NPCs, and the PC fighter in the web. Three of them saved on the spell, one undead didn't. Typically, I would expect at least 2 failed saves out of 4 targets, but that didn't happen.</p><p></p><p>I did manage to make the first web concentration save (since his arcane ward protected the wizard somewhat from the damage of the first spell, even though I missed the Dex save). I would have preferred to make the Dex save and miss the Con save. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Fog Cloud should have helped if I had cast it, but I didn't. Although down to 2 hit points, I considered the Naga to be a major threat and I did Scorching Ray on it (the ranger wizard did Magic Missile on it twice and another PC attacked it at least once). I was hoping focus fire would help and that the wizard was somewhat safe trying to keep the undead between himself and the Naga, but that did not happen. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /></p><p></p><p>Since 3 PCs fell with that second lightning bolt, the Fog Cloud would have probably helped my PC, but the other 3 PCs would have still eaten a lightning bolt, 2 of them falling, and the Naga would have been less wounded. So, it's very possible that by saving my PC with Fog Cloud (even if I included some other PCs in it), it might have ended up in a near TPK for the rest of the group (2 of 5 down and the Naga less wounded). There was only 2 PCs still standing at the end of that fight (and 1 of them had been unconscious). It was a tough fight, exacerbated (in my mind) by the fact that my wizard's lock down spell did almost nothing. But, there was a lot of weird luck going on in that fight (my PC failed both death saving throws by rolling two 1s).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 6519109, member: 2011"] I think that the Naga targeted my PC the first time because I had webbed it. The DM probably thought web might be a threat. Getting restrained can end up messing up spells. It also got a second PC in that attack. It's actually pretty easy to get 2 PCs out of 6 PCs in a straight line. The Naga targeted my PC the second time because the movement of combat ended up with 4 PCs and 1 NPC basically in a straight line. So, the Naga got as many foes (and one undead ally) in a single bolt. Rare, but the other players did not make the best decisions with regard to this (and the web was still in play, so it limited some of the squares PCs could go into and still melee attack).. The DM did not have it out for me, it was just bad luck overall. And, this encounter has nothing to do with why the wizard sucks at low level other than yet another illustration as to how web sounds good on paper, but it doesn't always work out as well in practice. I managed to get the Naga, two NPCs, and the PC fighter in the web. Three of them saved on the spell, one undead didn't. Typically, I would expect at least 2 failed saves out of 4 targets, but that didn't happen. I did manage to make the first web concentration save (since his arcane ward protected the wizard somewhat from the damage of the first spell, even though I missed the Dex save). I would have preferred to make the Dex save and miss the Con save. :lol: Fog Cloud should have helped if I had cast it, but I didn't. Although down to 2 hit points, I considered the Naga to be a major threat and I did Scorching Ray on it (the ranger wizard did Magic Missile on it twice and another PC attacked it at least once). I was hoping focus fire would help and that the wizard was somewhat safe trying to keep the undead between himself and the Naga, but that did not happen. :erm: Since 3 PCs fell with that second lightning bolt, the Fog Cloud would have probably helped my PC, but the other 3 PCs would have still eaten a lightning bolt, 2 of them falling, and the Naga would have been less wounded. So, it's very possible that by saving my PC with Fog Cloud (even if I included some other PCs in it), it might have ended up in a near TPK for the rest of the group (2 of 5 down and the Naga less wounded). There was only 2 PCs still standing at the end of that fight (and 1 of them had been unconscious). It was a tough fight, exacerbated (in my mind) by the fact that my wizard's lock down spell did almost nothing. But, there was a lot of weird luck going on in that fight (my PC failed both death saving throws by rolling two 1s). [/QUOTE]
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