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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 6519544" data-attributes="member: 5834"><p>A dragon has no incentive whatsoever to fight outside its lair. We tried to draw it outside its lair. We tried to scout it for when it goes hunting. It moves so fast, we had no way to keep up with it to follow it. There is no long-term flight options now unless you're a druid. We don't have a druid. Even if the druid follows it, no one else can keep up. If you were to cast a wall spell to seal it off from re-entering its lair, once again concentration. </p><p></p><p>With everything so limited, you don't have very good options for accomplishing things like drawing a dragon out of its lair. Spell durations are low now. Movement is slower, especially for groups. You have to be careful casting spells too soon when moving in a dragon's lair. What if you cast <em>fly</em> and then it takes over a minute to find the dragon? There are all kinds of logistical problems that did no exist in previous editions because of the severely limited options with magic now. I imagine that was intentional. It worked.</p><p></p><p>You get to save against illusions. The dragon has Blindsight. Generally, illusions not so effective against dragons and creatures with Blindsight or Truesight.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 6519544, member: 5834"] A dragon has no incentive whatsoever to fight outside its lair. We tried to draw it outside its lair. We tried to scout it for when it goes hunting. It moves so fast, we had no way to keep up with it to follow it. There is no long-term flight options now unless you're a druid. We don't have a druid. Even if the druid follows it, no one else can keep up. If you were to cast a wall spell to seal it off from re-entering its lair, once again concentration. With everything so limited, you don't have very good options for accomplishing things like drawing a dragon out of its lair. Spell durations are low now. Movement is slower, especially for groups. You have to be careful casting spells too soon when moving in a dragon's lair. What if you cast [I]fly[/I] and then it takes over a minute to find the dragon? There are all kinds of logistical problems that did no exist in previous editions because of the severely limited options with magic now. I imagine that was intentional. It worked. You get to save against illusions. The dragon has Blindsight. Generally, illusions not so effective against dragons and creatures with Blindsight or Truesight. [/QUOTE]
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