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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6520295" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Paladins get the second level spell Magic Weapon. With Dex 12, this is still 2 attacks at +5 D8+2 damage at level 5 (better than a wizard's Firebolt Cantrip). Bless is even better (2 attacks at +5+D4 D8+1 damage at level 5). I had pages here talking about how the low level Wizard's cantrips suck and people kept saying no they don't, so I think that if it doesn't suck 3 rounds out of 4 for a low level wizard, it doesn't suck once in a blue moon for a Paladin. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></p><p></p><p>At real low levels, a Dex 12 Paladin with a bow (+3 D8+1) is just a hair behind a Int 16 Wizard with Fire Bolt (+5 D10) and probably equal to a wizard without a Fire Bolt.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Paladins in a Dragon battle where the Dragon doesn't fight in melee range become healers and buffers. Oh well. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /></p><p></p><p>Either the other casters in the group figure out a way to bring the Dragon into melee range, or the Paladins shoot bows and heal allies.</p><p></p><p>This is how I view low level wizard btw. The difference is that the Paladins are effective in every combat except those rare ones where they are limited to ranged attacks. The low level wizards are effective less often per day between limited number of spells, concentration, and saves every round.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 6520295, member: 2011"] Paladins get the second level spell Magic Weapon. With Dex 12, this is still 2 attacks at +5 D8+2 damage at level 5 (better than a wizard's Firebolt Cantrip). Bless is even better (2 attacks at +5+D4 D8+1 damage at level 5). I had pages here talking about how the low level Wizard's cantrips suck and people kept saying no they don't, so I think that if it doesn't suck 3 rounds out of 4 for a low level wizard, it doesn't suck once in a blue moon for a Paladin. :lol: At real low levels, a Dex 12 Paladin with a bow (+3 D8+1) is just a hair behind a Int 16 Wizard with Fire Bolt (+5 D10) and probably equal to a wizard without a Fire Bolt. Paladins in a Dragon battle where the Dragon doesn't fight in melee range become healers and buffers. Oh well. :erm: Either the other casters in the group figure out a way to bring the Dragon into melee range, or the Paladins shoot bows and heal allies. This is how I view low level wizard btw. The difference is that the Paladins are effective in every combat except those rare ones where they are limited to ranged attacks. The low level wizards are effective less often per day between limited number of spells, concentration, and saves every round. [/QUOTE]
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