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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6537984" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>A first level wizard who has cast Mage Armor has already used up 33% of his spells before he even stepped out the tavern door in the morning. In order to get that level of AC, the low level wizard has to give up a significant chunk of his daily spells. 33% at first level, 25% at second level, 12% to 14% at third level.</p><p></p><p>Some Clerics get all of the weapons and armors, and I cannot believe you are even talking about Rogue weapon capabilities in comparison to Wizard weapon capabilities. Sure, an elven wizard gets the cool Longbow and can have a high Dex, but not all wizards are elves.</p><p></p><p>And I like this "just a little lower than the fighter" stuff too. The offensive fighter does 2D6+3 reroll ones and twos for 11.33 average points of damage. The offensive wizard does D12 (at very close range of 10 feet, most wizards settle for the D10 at much longer range) for 6.5 average points of damage. In what world is 6.5 (or 5.5) just a little lower than 11.33? The fighter rarely has a cover issue, the wizard can more often be shooting through cover (if he attacks a foe with Fire Bolt at range through the party). On average, the wizard tends to do less than half of the damage of the offensive fighter (two handed weapon or two weapon) and less than 3/4ths of the defensive (sword and board) fighter when using cantrips (which at low levels is often the vast majority of his rounds in an adventuring day). The main exception to this is the Elven wizard with a longbow and a high Dex.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 6537984, member: 2011"] A first level wizard who has cast Mage Armor has already used up 33% of his spells before he even stepped out the tavern door in the morning. In order to get that level of AC, the low level wizard has to give up a significant chunk of his daily spells. 33% at first level, 25% at second level, 12% to 14% at third level. Some Clerics get all of the weapons and armors, and I cannot believe you are even talking about Rogue weapon capabilities in comparison to Wizard weapon capabilities. Sure, an elven wizard gets the cool Longbow and can have a high Dex, but not all wizards are elves. And I like this "just a little lower than the fighter" stuff too. The offensive fighter does 2D6+3 reroll ones and twos for 11.33 average points of damage. The offensive wizard does D12 (at very close range of 10 feet, most wizards settle for the D10 at much longer range) for 6.5 average points of damage. In what world is 6.5 (or 5.5) just a little lower than 11.33? The fighter rarely has a cover issue, the wizard can more often be shooting through cover (if he attacks a foe with Fire Bolt at range through the party). On average, the wizard tends to do less than half of the damage of the offensive fighter (two handed weapon or two weapon) and less than 3/4ths of the defensive (sword and board) fighter when using cantrips (which at low levels is often the vast majority of his rounds in an adventuring day). The main exception to this is the Elven wizard with a longbow and a high Dex. [/QUOTE]
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