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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 6542118" data-attributes="member: 5834"><p>You're using a rule interpretation so rigid to complain about the wizard being weak that only a jerk DM would make. If your DM is that rigid, no wonder you're not having fun.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're using this as an argument for why the wizard is weak. I would say to you ease up some. You're insisting the wizard is weak. The wizard isn't weak. It's just a slow build class like it always was other than 4E I guess. If you prefer the 4E power scale, the same is still available to play. </p><p></p><p>I had a lot fun with the low level wizard. The only time I haven't had fun is when I was fighting dragons in a bad terrain that were 6 or 7 CR higher than my level. Now they're only 4 or 5 CR above my level, they are much easier. The last dragon we fought had to go run and sit in his pool. We used <em>Leomund's Tiny Hut</em> cast as a ritual from my spell book to set up a barrier the dragon couldn't penetrate. The ranged casters moved in and out of the hut on each turn launching cantrips and attacks without much danger at all. I relaxed and read a book in the hut. Made the fight a cake walk. I don't think I took a point of damage. I like that odd spells like the hut are viable. It's fun. </p><p></p><p>There's no longer a case for the wizard being weak. Different than 4E. Different than prior editions. Maybe weaker in some ways that previous editions. But still very, very powerful compared to other classes. Give time for more books to come out. I guarantee the class that will gain the most power from additional books will be the wizard because every new book with wizard spells released will benefit them more than other casters and definitely more than martials. It's a matter of time before more options come out that will let Wizard's get a little more oomph to their damage to go along with everything else they have going for them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 6542118, member: 5834"] You're using a rule interpretation so rigid to complain about the wizard being weak that only a jerk DM would make. If your DM is that rigid, no wonder you're not having fun. You're using this as an argument for why the wizard is weak. I would say to you ease up some. You're insisting the wizard is weak. The wizard isn't weak. It's just a slow build class like it always was other than 4E I guess. If you prefer the 4E power scale, the same is still available to play. I had a lot fun with the low level wizard. The only time I haven't had fun is when I was fighting dragons in a bad terrain that were 6 or 7 CR higher than my level. Now they're only 4 or 5 CR above my level, they are much easier. The last dragon we fought had to go run and sit in his pool. We used [I]Leomund's Tiny Hut[/I] cast as a ritual from my spell book to set up a barrier the dragon couldn't penetrate. The ranged casters moved in and out of the hut on each turn launching cantrips and attacks without much danger at all. I relaxed and read a book in the hut. Made the fight a cake walk. I don't think I took a point of damage. I like that odd spells like the hut are viable. It's fun. There's no longer a case for the wizard being weak. Different than 4E. Different than prior editions. Maybe weaker in some ways that previous editions. But still very, very powerful compared to other classes. Give time for more books to come out. I guarantee the class that will gain the most power from additional books will be the wizard because every new book with wizard spells released will benefit them more than other casters and definitely more than martials. It's a matter of time before more options come out that will let Wizard's get a little more oomph to their damage to go along with everything else they have going for them. [/QUOTE]
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