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<blockquote data-quote="Erechel" data-source="post: 6593328" data-attributes="member: 6784868">This post goes forever, now. I think that the original question has been answered several times, now. No, Low Level wizards do not suck. They have an array of class abilities that can make the difference in a party. And yet, the first level (the real weak level not only to wizards) goes fast as lightning: three orcs and you go to second level. You can face them with ease using several different spells (MM, BH, Sleep, even cantrips), and you have a spell that lasts for hours as armor. Six more, and you are in third. You need less money than other classes, and you cannot be left drained of resources (if you lock down a wizard in a cell, without his spellbook, he can still kill the guards from range with cantrips, or convince them to open the locks (friends cantrip) a feat no other class could do except other arcanes). You have an NPC to aid you (familiar) and a direct damage spell (MM). You can surpass several challenges by wit and creative thougt, with tools that not everyone has: &quot;look at my, moron; you see me? (cantrip, minor illusion to grow fangs, or Light from your hands) I don't need weapons, or muscles to delete you. I can kill you with a thought or a gesture. Get off here and I let you live (kill an orc ally with a MM)&quot;. NPCs have no idea what is a level, and only very few can discern the real power of a wizard, usually people that we don't face at early levels. Yet, they aren't as powerful or ground breakers as before, when a Charm Person lasted for weeks or months, but certainly they are less fragile. So no, they don't suck. They only aren't the killing machines and heavy artillery they use to be, and some people isn't glad to have to play with a powerful fighter or ranger on his side. But they are far from useless in a fight or an adventure.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Erechel, post: 6593328, member: 6784868"] This post goes forever, now. I think that the original question has been answered several times, now. No, Low Level wizards do not suck. They have an array of class abilities that can make the difference in a party. And yet, the first level (the real weak level not only to wizards) goes fast as lightning: three orcs and you go to second level. You can face them with ease using several different spells (MM, BH, Sleep, even cantrips), and you have a spell that lasts for hours as armor. Six more, and you are in third. You need less money than other classes, and you cannot be left drained of resources (if you lock down a wizard in a cell, without his spellbook, he can still kill the guards from range with cantrips, or convince them to open the locks (friends cantrip) a feat no other class could do except other arcanes). You have an NPC to aid you (familiar) and a direct damage spell (MM). You can surpass several challenges by wit and creative thougt, with tools that not everyone has: "look at my, moron; you see me? (cantrip, minor illusion to grow fangs, or Light from your hands) I don't need weapons, or muscles to delete you. I can kill you with a thought or a gesture. Get off here and I let you live (kill an orc ally with a MM)". NPCs have no idea what is a level, and only very few can discern the real power of a wizard, usually people that we don't face at early levels. Yet, they aren't as powerful or ground breakers as before, when a Charm Person lasted for weeks or months, but certainly they are less fragile. So no, they don't suck. They only aren't the killing machines and heavy artillery they use to be, and some people isn't glad to have to play with a powerful fighter or ranger on his side. But they are far from useless in a fight or an adventure. [/QUOTE]

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