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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6593626" data-attributes="member: 2011">Not to call shenanigans, but I'm calling shenanigans.For 5 PCs who average 10 points of damage each at third level (if they hit every time) doing 440+ points of damage to the 20 gnolls, it would take 9 rounds to take out just the Gnolls if every single attack hits (and for most PCs, the chance to hit a Gnoll is about 55%). This does not even take into account misses, the hit points/AC of the chieftain, or the hit points/AC of the two pack leaders, or any special abilities the gnoll leaders have. An encounter like this should take about 20 to 25 rounds (assuming that none of the PCs goes unconscious).Even if the PCs average AC 18, the gnolls would get at least 200 attacks (and probably more) against the PCs in 20+ rounds and do well over 400 points of damage in return. How exactly do these third level PCs suck up 80 points of damage each with a single cure wounds spell?What does your DM do, send 4 gnolls at a time against you?You keep claiming how tough your DM is, but does he knock your PCs prone and pin/grapple them there and kill them with his superior numbers with advantage? Evidently not. It sounds like the tactics of the party are a lot better than your DM's if he cannot manage to kick your butt with 23 higher level foes.The DM has 23 foes. Are you telling us that he never crits? He never swamps a squishy PC and takes him out?Or does he do this in a 5 foot wide corridor so that you guys fight one gnoll at a time? Why bother?Sorry dude, but this sounds totally farfetched and unbelievable. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm    :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" />Btw, if this is some sort of "we shoot down at them from the top of the cliff face" and we can jump back into total cover (and get partial cover against their readied bows) and we suck down a bunch of healing potions in total safety when injured and they cannot melee us and we fake them out with a Minor Illusion of a scarecrow bowman to get some of their readied attacks to miss us type of scenario, then you are misleading people here.</blockquote>

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