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Message: <blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 6594849" data-attributes="member: 43019">With optimized damage dealers, it absolutely is.Bless is frustratingly good, since it dodges bounded accuracy and in most groups hits everyone who matters. It also discourages the cleric from engaging directly with an encounter, because of concentration. Agreed, especially if you have optimized damagers, though, again, every bit helps. If you're reducing monster damage to negligible amounts, it's harder for cancelling a monster action to bridge that 2-4hp gap.Yep. You're getting amazing mileage out of your tank, too. It's extremely rare that it's possible to do so in most games of 5E I've played; in fact, monsters so notoriously ignore tanks to go for other targets that the situation you describe is hard for me to fathom except in a 5-ft corridor chokepoint situation. A 10-ft corridor often results in monsters just streaming straight past.Agreed, just making sure it had a use for out of combat. Aid is a solid response, as well. I think I'd drop Bane for Healing Word in your setup, all the same, but having aid at least gives _some_ answer to the melee conundrum.Agreed. Our least optimal member was trying one out in another game, and even there I was pleasantly surprised.Unfortunately, that game was using Expeditions and frankly the adventures, or the DM - one of those - did not cope well with deviations from their expected and planned encounters.Absolutely agree. Honestly, I'm most curious about this thread because I've seen two local gamers give up on the wizard at low level. One of whom I tried over and over to guide to better spells, cause he was doing things like taking witch bolt and burning hands, and it never went well.It's been very good getting this additional data point.</blockquote>

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