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<blockquote data-quote="Teulisch" data-source="post: 7546136" data-attributes="member: 6776022">wizard damage has a few basic flaws in it, its true. but that does not mean the class sucks, it just means that its very easy for a player to take the wrong cantrips and spells. either for the campaign they are in, or just poor mechanical choices in general. spell fall into three categories- roll to hit, save or suck, and the stuff that just happens. that last category can be the best, but sometimes (such as with illusions), the spells effect depends on the DM. if the DM is running a pure combat game with no RP, a lot of concepts will fail hard. if the game is low combat, other concepts will prove lackluster. at the end of the day, wizards are the single most flexible class, and thus the hardest class to play well. they are also the squishiest class, even if their HP is better than the old d4 they used to have. mage armor is mandatory, simply because they have no other good options. shield is a good idea, but tricky to apply properly for some styles of play.&nbsp; no matter how good your spell list, you can always end up with suboptimal choices for some encounters. at least an elven wizard gets longbows (and an extra cantrip).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Teulisch, post: 7546136, member: 6776022"] wizard damage has a few basic flaws in it, its true. but that does not mean the class sucks, it just means that its very easy for a player to take the wrong cantrips and spells. either for the campaign they are in, or just poor mechanical choices in general. spell fall into three categories- roll to hit, save or suck, and the stuff that just happens. that last category can be the best, but sometimes (such as with illusions), the spells effect depends on the DM. if the DM is running a pure combat game with no RP, a lot of concepts will fail hard. if the game is low combat, other concepts will prove lackluster. at the end of the day, wizards are the single most flexible class, and thus the hardest class to play well. they are also the squishiest class, even if their HP is better than the old d4 they used to have. mage armor is mandatory, simply because they have no other good options. shield is a good idea, but tricky to apply properly for some styles of play. no matter how good your spell list, you can always end up with suboptimal choices for some encounters. at least an elven wizard gets longbows (and an extra cantrip). [/QUOTE]

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