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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 7555826" data-attributes="member: 23751">War Caster is just too good not to take as a caster.&nbsp; So assuming you are not a variant human that gets it at 1st level, you still get it at 4th level, which is still low level.No.&nbsp; I'm not assuming he's withing 30 feet.&nbsp; I'm assuming he's withing 60 feet if he's going to cast the spell.&nbsp; Move 30 feet to 30, then cast the spell.&nbsp; If he's not within 60 feet, he casts a different spell.&nbsp; Sometimes being farther than 60 feet is going to happen.&nbsp; That doesn't mean that Witchbolt isn't going to be useful a lot of the time.Sure.&nbsp; It may be rare that the enemies are behind or to the side of the front rank, but it's common that the wizard can move sideways and get an unobstructed view, then move back.The entire point of this debate is to show you that there are different perspectives out there.&nbsp; Just because YOU hate the spell and think it's useless, does not mean that everyone else does.&nbsp; I can easily see the spell being good enough for use under commonly encountered circumstances.It doesn't require a perfect scenario.&nbsp; It requires a common scenario.&nbsp; Wizards commonly have War Caster as it's an amazing feat for a caster to have.&nbsp; Wizards are commonly in circumstances that they can walk sideways to get clear views of enemies and then back again.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 7555826, member: 23751"] War Caster is just too good not to take as a caster. So assuming you are not a variant human that gets it at 1st level, you still get it at 4th level, which is still low level. No. I'm not assuming he's withing 30 feet. I'm assuming he's withing 60 feet if he's going to cast the spell. Move 30 feet to 30, then cast the spell. If he's not within 60 feet, he casts a different spell. Sometimes being farther than 60 feet is going to happen. That doesn't mean that Witchbolt isn't going to be useful a lot of the time. Sure. It may be rare that the enemies are behind or to the side of the front rank, but it's common that the wizard can move sideways and get an unobstructed view, then move back. The entire point of this debate is to show you that there are different perspectives out there. Just because YOU hate the spell and think it's useless, does not mean that everyone else does. I can easily see the spell being good enough for use under commonly encountered circumstances. It doesn't require a perfect scenario. It requires a common scenario. Wizards commonly have War Caster as it's an amazing feat for a caster to have. Wizards are commonly in circumstances that they can walk sideways to get clear views of enemies and then back again. [/QUOTE]

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