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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SnowleopardVK" data-source="post: 5756712" data-attributes="member: 6677945">Our current (Pathfinder) game looks like we may be getting a new member soon, thus bringing our party from 3 members to 4, and (hopefully) giving us a proper healer or frontline fighter. The GM seems to be toying with the idea of bringing in the new guy a level lower than the current members of the group however.What's with doing that? I've seen a lot of GMs do that to players, and it generally doesn't seem to do much but make them less useful. I've even experienced joining a 6th level party and being told "you have to start at 1st level like everyone else did". I don't really see the point. It's less fun for the new player to be constantly behind, and the other players are likely going to see them as being not useful due to their perpetually lower level.So I'm planning to try and talk our GM out of it and just let the new guy come in at the same level as the rest of us. Otherwise it seems like it'd be unfair to the new player. Like punishing him just because he was out of the loop when the four of us were planning a game.Does anyone have any convincing points that might help me talk to our GM about this with? Or does anybody have any arguments supporting doing it? (I am kind of interested in knowing why so many GMs I've known do something that, to me, seems so wrong.)--EDIT: Just to clarify, by "new" I mean new to this particular party, not new to the game or group. He's played PF before, and he's played with the rest of us before, he just wasn't aware that we were organizing this particular game back when it was in the planning process.</blockquote>

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