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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7171727" data-attributes="member: 996">It assumes low-magic-items,anyway... &nbsp; Or simply cut there's no need for 4 different arcane PC classes, or even one, for that matter. Certainly not for anything as powerful, high-availability, dependable, and risk-free as 5e casting.&nbsp;Nonsense, that.&nbsp; D&amp;D absolutely depends on hps &amp; and the frequent, instant restoration thereof for the functioning of its combat system and it's modeling of action and risk in general. 5e is a distant second-best at coping with the absence of magical healing thanks to the HD mechanic. And, well nothing else, really.&nbsp; In 4e, not only did you have surges, but the Warlord could take on the related leader functions.&nbsp; Conceptually, the bits and pieces you'd need to make 5e functional w/o magic all have precident.&nbsp; That hps damage can't represent the kind of severe injuries that require weeks of convalescence, for instance is indisputable, due to HD and overnight healing.&nbsp; Second Wind establishes instant non-magical hp restoration.&nbsp; Healer does so for unconscious subjects. They're not adequate in their current forms, but they're starting points.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7171727, member: 996"] It assumes low-magic-items,anyway... Or simply cut there's no need for 4 different arcane PC classes, or even one, for that matter. Certainly not for anything as powerful, high-availability, dependable, and risk-free as 5e casting. Nonsense, that. D&D absolutely depends on hps & and the frequent, instant restoration thereof for the functioning of its combat system and it's modeling of action and risk in general. 5e is a distant second-best at coping with the absence of magical healing thanks to the HD mechanic. And, well nothing else, really. In 4e, not only did you have surges, but the Warlord could take on the related leader functions. Conceptually, the bits and pieces you'd need to make 5e functional w/o magic all have precident. That hps damage can't represent the kind of severe injuries that require weeks of convalescence, for instance is indisputable, due to HD and overnight healing. Second Wind establishes instant non-magical hp restoration. Healer does so for unconscious subjects. They're not adequate in their current forms, but they're starting points. [/QUOTE]

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