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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 3505933" data-attributes="member: 4937">Yes.I'll try.  In another post, you wrote:This suggests that you believe that the only reason people write is to ego trip.  Now, not only is all role-playing nothing more than an ego trip in disguise, but apparantly all literature and by extension I suppose all art is merely 'showing off'.  (No one would bother to paint if it wasn't about thier own ego?)   Pretty soon, we are going to reach the point where no one does anything except to have thier ego stroked.   Suppose I deny that that is true.  Suppose I suggest that Tolkien was not writing in order to feel proud of himself and that he might have had other motivations.  I'll snip a long discussion of Tolkiens motivations since that's not really relevant here.  What is relevant is that no matter what I wrote about anyone's motivations, no matter what sort of work anyone created, you could always respond to thatby saying that, "No really, its always about ego.  Even when people say its not about ego, they are just lying."  And of course, then by extension I too would be lying.I find this particularly funny, because its exactly where I was going with my earlier analogy about paraphilia that I didn't want to elaborate on.  People who have a paraphilia usually believe that everyone has a paraphilia, and those that don't are lying.  A fetishist always believes that everyone secretly shares thier fetish (or a similar one), and that anyone who says other wise is lyinrg or simply repressing it.   But I didn't want to make that explicit, because such subjects probably don't pass the Eric's grandma test, so I instead said, "Riiiighhhttt", to show that I thought the conversation had reached a point where it was pointless to disagree even though I did.  Clear now?</blockquote>

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