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<blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 3506098" data-attributes="member: 30001"><p>I disagree with what I understand you are trying to say. It seems like you're attributing things too starkly to power that have more complex motives. One <em>could</em> argue that every behavior and hobby short of self-destruction is about power - but then the concept doesn't really mean much. If we all understood fantasy fiction in the same way, I don't think we'd have anything to disagree on. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ok, I missed that. I'm thinking of an adventure in Dungeon magazine that had pirates that were 8th level fighter orcs. DnD scales in such a way that it's possible to play a game where you're 10th level, and yet everything else is 10th level too - even the commoners - to the point that there's really not enough power differential so that you resemble anything like a demi-god.</p><p></p><p>For that reason, I didn't make the connection that you meant 10th level was demi-god. In fact, the game I was referring to in college was an 8th level game - and the adventurers seemed a little more exceptional than usual, but nowhere near demi-god status. IMO demi-god status has as much/more to do with how the DM conducts things than the power level of the PCs - that's one of the things that is missed in all of this by folks that equate low magic with low power - one really doesn't know enough to say it's low-power based only on one of many factors.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't know what you mean by "drinker", but the fact is that I look for a lot more than alchohol in the alchoholic drinks that I consume, and a brewer (read: DM) that thinks that some junk with alchohol in it is all I care about would be mistaken (I'm talking to you - Coors! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ) The point is that there is subtlety and flavor to things, and while some people have no taste for it, DnD can be more than power, and beer can be more than alchohol.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That would be embarrasing! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And therefore, to the pure all things are pure.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gizmo33, post: 3506098, member: 30001"] I disagree with what I understand you are trying to say. It seems like you're attributing things too starkly to power that have more complex motives. One [i]could[/i] argue that every behavior and hobby short of self-destruction is about power - but then the concept doesn't really mean much. If we all understood fantasy fiction in the same way, I don't think we'd have anything to disagree on. Ok, I missed that. I'm thinking of an adventure in Dungeon magazine that had pirates that were 8th level fighter orcs. DnD scales in such a way that it's possible to play a game where you're 10th level, and yet everything else is 10th level too - even the commoners - to the point that there's really not enough power differential so that you resemble anything like a demi-god. For that reason, I didn't make the connection that you meant 10th level was demi-god. In fact, the game I was referring to in college was an 8th level game - and the adventurers seemed a little more exceptional than usual, but nowhere near demi-god status. IMO demi-god status has as much/more to do with how the DM conducts things than the power level of the PCs - that's one of the things that is missed in all of this by folks that equate low magic with low power - one really doesn't know enough to say it's low-power based only on one of many factors. I don't know what you mean by "drinker", but the fact is that I look for a lot more than alchohol in the alchoholic drinks that I consume, and a brewer (read: DM) that thinks that some junk with alchohol in it is all I care about would be mistaken (I'm talking to you - Coors! :) ) The point is that there is subtlety and flavor to things, and while some people have no taste for it, DnD can be more than power, and beer can be more than alchohol. That would be embarrasing! :) And therefore, to the pure all things are pure. [/QUOTE]
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