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<blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 3510591" data-attributes="member: 30001">Relative to what?&nbsp; If we understand &quot;relative&quot; to mean the same thing, then I think you've answered the question.&nbsp; The price of a loaf of bread is relative to the cost of the grain, salt, and fuel (baking) to make it.&nbsp; Those things are relative to the price of labor for threshing grain/mining salt, the price of transporting salt and grain, the price of wood/fuel, etc.&nbsp; Plus taxes, accidents, supply shortages and monopolies, etc.&nbsp; In a specific case for determing cost of materials/manufacture, there are two main situations.&nbsp; One is magic items.&nbsp; Since magic items don't exist in the real world, a fairly simple formula exists in the 3E DMG for determining these costs.For historical/real items, the pre-industrial historical/real prices can be researched (if you want).&nbsp; Or you can ball-park it based on related items values.&nbsp; The DMG establishes that 1 silver piece/day is the going rate for labor - this can be a useful standard for comparison since labor prices seem to be pretty easy to find in most books about social history for a given time period/culture.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gizmo33, post: 3510591, member: 30001"] Relative to what? If we understand "relative" to mean the same thing, then I think you've answered the question. The price of a loaf of bread is relative to the cost of the grain, salt, and fuel (baking) to make it. Those things are relative to the price of labor for threshing grain/mining salt, the price of transporting salt and grain, the price of wood/fuel, etc. Plus taxes, accidents, supply shortages and monopolies, etc. In a specific case for determing cost of materials/manufacture, there are two main situations. One is magic items. Since magic items don't exist in the real world, a fairly simple formula exists in the 3E DMG for determining these costs. For historical/real items, the pre-industrial historical/real prices can be researched (if you want). Or you can ball-park it based on related items values. The DMG establishes that 1 silver piece/day is the going rate for labor - this can be a useful standard for comparison since labor prices seem to be pretty easy to find in most books about social history for a given time period/culture. [/QUOTE]

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