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Message: <blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6544873" data-attributes="member: 92511">Not venom at all. Making a statement based on observed fact and experience is not "venom."I said what I would do to make a "low magic" setting/game. I think at least some of that post (I would like to think "most") might be useful suggestions for the OP or others reading the thread/interested in the topic/idea.After I did my sailing over without a "by-your-leave" [and why you think I, or anyone, would require such to post a response to a public thread I'm not quite sure, <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> but that's neither here nor there] I went on to say...Well, since you seem to like using out-of-content or partial post quotes to defend/"prove" your point, here's what I actually posted after saying I would remove them:So, again, looking at the whole actual post, I did acknowledge what the OP said and after stating what I thought they should do, I presented an "I don't want to ban classes" option to use them but making it feel/seem appropriate to a "low magic" game.Another option that occurred to me to present a low magic game was to make ritual spells actual rituals [only]. The fact that the sorcerer has ritual spells does not matter. The fact that the sorcerer, along with any arcane spellcaster, is going to be "reduced" in power by making things rituals, does not matter...and in fact, is pretty much the point! To reduce magic power and impact.Turns out that's not the kind of 'Low magic" game the OP was talking/thinking about. And, ya know, that's fine. Doesn't make my ideas/suggestions/opinions any more "wrong" or more valid than any others in the thread.To be fair, it was a bit hyperbolic/misspeaking of me to say "We all know..." Fair enough. Foul on me. Since, clearly, it is not possible that everyone on the forums will have seen any of several threads (going back quite some time) about sorcerers in which KaiiLurker (now "Moonsong") has presented their side/views about sorcerers (and the 5e class in particular). So, apologies for that. I'll go edit that to "Some of us..."</blockquote>

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