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<blockquote data-quote="Brother MacLaren" data-source="post: 1542685" data-attributes="member: 15999">Well, this is better than &quot;Admit you just don't like magic,&quot; which was your previous demand.&nbsp; But &quot;wanting to change something&quot; is not necessarily the same as &quot;don't like it.&quot;&nbsp; I want to change lots of things that I like because I think they could be made even better.&nbsp; My pancake recipe and my country's democracy, to name two.I disagree with your assertion.&nbsp; Gandalf *did* refrain from casting spells at specific times because it wasn't &quot;safe and reliable.&quot;&nbsp; While it was reliable enough (he was more or less a demigod after all), it wasn't safe - Gandalf using his magic would alert Saruman and Sauron &quot;Gandalf is here.&quot;&nbsp; I think it was on Caradhras when they were trying to get a fire started and Aragon failed his Survival check.&nbsp; Now you could devise a mechanic like that to capture that feel and encourage PCs to be very restrained in their magic and only use it when asbolutely necessary.&nbsp; In fact, Midnight has done so.&nbsp; In fact, if you had some other types of constraints in place, you could do away with the spells-per-day limits.&nbsp; You'd be replacing one constraint on magic with another.&nbsp; (Long casting times, ability point damage, chance of insanity, etc.)Madsen's ideas are pretty good principles IMO - can use one or more of them to make magic somethng to be properly wary of.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Brother MacLaren, post: 1542685, member: 15999"] Well, this is better than "Admit you just don't like magic," which was your previous demand. But "wanting to change something" is not necessarily the same as "don't like it." I want to change lots of things that I like because I think they could be made even better. My pancake recipe and my country's democracy, to name two. I disagree with your assertion. Gandalf *did* refrain from casting spells at specific times because it wasn't "safe and reliable." While it was reliable enough (he was more or less a demigod after all), it wasn't safe - Gandalf using his magic would alert Saruman and Sauron "Gandalf is here." I think it was on Caradhras when they were trying to get a fire started and Aragon failed his Survival check. Now you could devise a mechanic like that to capture that feel and encourage PCs to be very restrained in their magic and only use it when asbolutely necessary. In fact, Midnight has done so. In fact, if you had some other types of constraints in place, you could do away with the spells-per-day limits. You'd be replacing one constraint on magic with another. (Long casting times, ability point damage, chance of insanity, etc.) Madsen's ideas are pretty good principles IMO - can use one or more of them to make magic somethng to be properly wary of. [/QUOTE]

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