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<blockquote data-quote="Brother MacLaren" data-source="post: 1545571" data-attributes="member: 15999">I don't view &quot;cost&quot; as &quot;punishment.&quot;&nbsp; Nobody is punishing me with a fine of $7 for choosing to go see Van Helsing.&nbsp; I chose to pay to see it because, to me, the chance of it being an entertaining movie made it worth the cost.&nbsp; It's all in how you view it.&nbsp; I would happily play a wizard who could choose to spend HP or XP to cast spells (either to cast beyond the prepared slots or to use in a system with no spell prep).&nbsp; An even better analogy for some things is investment.&nbsp; As the player of a spellcaster (druid), I would jump at the chance to cast unlimited spells for (12.5 gp+.5 XP)*spell level*caster level.&nbsp; In fact, I'd be doing just that through Scribe Scroll had my DM not changed the rules on that feat.&nbsp; Why would I do that?&nbsp; Because &quot;spending&quot; XP to defeat an obstacle that would otherwise not be beaten means that I earn enough XP to overcome the cost.&nbsp; And because having the additional flexibility that Scribe Scroll allows is FUN, well worth spending a few XP.HP (maybe 1 per spell level subdual damage) or abilities (roll your own save vs. your spell's DC or take 1d4 temporary Str damage) could also be cases where the PC finds it a tactically sound choice to cast a particular spell.But &quot;cost&quot; is not the same as &quot;punishment,&quot; and for damage applied to aspellcaster it's more like &quot;investment.&quot;&nbsp; I've heard your opinion from others who view the XP cost of creating items as a &quot;penalty.&quot;&nbsp; It isn't - it's an investment, plus a means to ensure that wizards gain levels only by taking risks, not by sitting safely in a tower crafting items for pay.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Brother MacLaren, post: 1545571, member: 15999"] I don't view "cost" as "punishment." Nobody is punishing me with a fine of $7 for choosing to go see Van Helsing. I chose to pay to see it because, to me, the chance of it being an entertaining movie made it worth the cost. It's all in how you view it. I would happily play a wizard who could choose to spend HP or XP to cast spells (either to cast beyond the prepared slots or to use in a system with no spell prep). An even better analogy for some things is investment. As the player of a spellcaster (druid), I would jump at the chance to cast unlimited spells for (12.5 gp+.5 XP)*spell level*caster level. In fact, I'd be doing just that through Scribe Scroll had my DM not changed the rules on that feat. Why would I do that? Because "spending" XP to defeat an obstacle that would otherwise not be beaten means that I earn enough XP to overcome the cost. And because having the additional flexibility that Scribe Scroll allows is FUN, well worth spending a few XP. HP (maybe 1 per spell level subdual damage) or abilities (roll your own save vs. your spell's DC or take 1d4 temporary Str damage) could also be cases where the PC finds it a tactically sound choice to cast a particular spell. But "cost" is not the same as "punishment," and for damage applied to aspellcaster it's more like "investment." I've heard your opinion from others who view the XP cost of creating items as a "penalty." It isn't - it's an investment, plus a means to ensure that wizards gain levels only by taking risks, not by sitting safely in a tower crafting items for pay. [/QUOTE]

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