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<blockquote data-quote="jkason" data-source="post: 5759817" data-attributes="member: 2710"><p>The air above the swarm hisses and pops, and suddenly a being of living fire materializes amidst the swarm at Elenka's call. The creature swings its burning hand down into the mass, but natural instinct sends the spiders scattering up the walls at the heat.</p><p></p><p>[sblock=damaging the swarm]I'll admit this is my first swarm, too. My understanding is that any single-target attack, elemental or no, suffers from the swarm's weapon immunity. They aren't vulnerable to fire or elements specifically, but to area attacks (of which a large number are fire). If the swarm's immune to acid splash, I can't imagine an elemental fist bypassing the immunity.</p><p></p><p>From that, I ruled as follows: The elemental's slam attack (single target natural weapon) doesn't cause damage. However, since the burn mechanic also affects an unlimited number of creatures who attack the elemental with natural weapons, the spiders DO have to deal with burn damage from attacking the elemental. Of course, for that to happen you have to convince them to end their turn on top of the giant fire thing ... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />[/sblock]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[gm]Is Quioan choosing to forego an action in the surprise round, then, or holding until after the swarm? So far as I can tell, he's only used free actions, so he has a move or a standard if he wants to use it.[/gm]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>[gm]Per <a href="http://enworld.org/showthread.php?t=312015&page=11#post5715134" target="_blank">This post</a>, each of you should have two vials of alchemist's fire. Since no one had any at the ready, you're right, and you'll have to use an action to retrieve a vial if you intend to use it.</p><p></p><p>And yes: we're still in the surprise round. The spiders still get to act during it, but I want to confirm what Quioan is doing before I have them act.</p><p></p><p>Map updated. Hope it doesn't throw anyone that I just shunted the letters to fit you all in the active area rather than trying to extend the map. I'll worry about that if you all start trying to flee it terror. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />[/gm]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jkason, post: 5759817, member: 2710"] The air above the swarm hisses and pops, and suddenly a being of living fire materializes amidst the swarm at Elenka's call. The creature swings its burning hand down into the mass, but natural instinct sends the spiders scattering up the walls at the heat. [sblock=damaging the swarm]I'll admit this is my first swarm, too. My understanding is that any single-target attack, elemental or no, suffers from the swarm's weapon immunity. They aren't vulnerable to fire or elements specifically, but to area attacks (of which a large number are fire). If the swarm's immune to acid splash, I can't imagine an elemental fist bypassing the immunity. From that, I ruled as follows: The elemental's slam attack (single target natural weapon) doesn't cause damage. However, since the burn mechanic also affects an unlimited number of creatures who attack the elemental with natural weapons, the spiders DO have to deal with burn damage from attacking the elemental. Of course, for that to happen you have to convince them to end their turn on top of the giant fire thing ... ;)[/sblock] [gm]Is Quioan choosing to forego an action in the surprise round, then, or holding until after the swarm? So far as I can tell, he's only used free actions, so he has a move or a standard if he wants to use it.[/gm] [gm]Per [url=http://enworld.org/showthread.php?t=312015&page=11#post5715134]This post[/url], each of you should have two vials of alchemist's fire. Since no one had any at the ready, you're right, and you'll have to use an action to retrieve a vial if you intend to use it. And yes: we're still in the surprise round. The spiders still get to act during it, but I want to confirm what Quioan is doing before I have them act. Map updated. Hope it doesn't throw anyone that I just shunted the letters to fit you all in the active area rather than trying to extend the map. I'll worry about that if you all start trying to flee it terror. :p[/gm] [/QUOTE]
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