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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jbear" data-source="post: 6356644" data-attributes="member: 75065">Maui looks at the etchings with an admiring look. The tattooed warrior appreciates teh simplicity and beauty of the symbols used. "Good" he states simply,, and then moves around the  side of the pit towards the door. He is about to reach out and push open the door (or at least try) when Weel begins speaking. Maui had at first thought to simply ignore the man's babblings as that of a crazed loon. But as time had passed Maui began to decipher sense behind the prattle. He was mad for sure. But the mad man if touched genuinely by the spirit world could see things that others could not. At times he caught glimpses of that world himself when he tread in the skin of the Beast. And if he understood correctly the pictures had meaning. Something to do with the door. And one of the common pictures was a snake, somthing that had drawn his attention in the first place."Awww ... pokokohua!" he swore. "More of te traps?" he complained bitterly. He looked back at the drawings and rubbed his forehead. He was not the sharpest tool in the shed, not when it came to puzzles. He had a feeling he was not going to be much help here other than to state the obvious. "There is te snakes" he stated and then felt silent, aware that he was not helping.[sblock=OOC] While I would like to help with the puzzle (as otherwise we are unable to advance just yet) I don't think it makes sense that Maui helps. Not his forte really. Something I did notice: When Lem was in the pit, the rope hung down in the middle and could not be made to reach him near the sides of the pit wall. That does not seem natural to me. Anyone else think that was wierd?Could there be an alternate route within the pits themselves? And the rope was being pushed out by a steady stream of air from a tunnel somewhere?Let's see what I notice about the puzzle: On the door the images in the boxes are identical in number abnd positioning.Each line has four image above it which are not in boxes.The boxed images seem like a keypad. The images above seem like a clue as to what the sequence that the boxed images should be pressed.The left and right hand wall must hold the clues as to how we are meant to make sense of the rules of the puzzle. There are 4 lines on the door and only two lines on the walls, although there is a gap in the middle of each line which probably indicates that each half on each wall corresponds to a clue relating to one of the lines on the door.If we go left to right assuming that the left most wall line corresponds to the top line on the door:The row of symbols contains 5 symbols where as the symbols on the door have 41st door row vs left wall:1 door chariot = 1 R of Left (6)2 door lefthand = 2 L of Left (2)3 door man = 1 L of Left (1)4 door scales = 4 L of Left (4)Symbol  L of Left unused = beetle (5)2nd door row vs left wall: 1 door snake = 5 R of Left (10)2 door hand up = 2 R of Left (7)3 door sun = 3 R of Left (8)4 door scales = 4 R of Left (9)Symbol left unused = dog (3)NB: not seeing any numerical patterns emerging... (-4, -1, +3,) vs (-3, +1, +1)3rd door row vs Right Wall:1 door cat = 3 R of Right (8)2 door antenna = 2 L of right (2)3 door cat = 5 R of Right (10)4 door scales = 4 R of Right (9)4th door row vs Right Wall:1 door chariot = no corresponding chariot on right wall?? Only on Left2: door rope = 2 R of Right (7)3: door man = 3 L of Right (3)4: door scales = 4 L of Right (4)(-6, +8, -1) vs (0+7?, -4. +1) ... okay nothing there. Symbols unused on Right hand wall: EYe of Horus, Wave, ScorpionNot really seeing any pattern regarding the groups of 5 on each wallNot seeing a pattern in those omitted: L1, L5, R1 (6)Soooo .... hmm ...The only correspondance I see with those groupings is loose at best:Left Left vs Top of door: All symbols are in group except CHARIOT -> Press Chariot? Or reverse press Dog and Scarab ?Or press only those present in both places: Hand, mand scale?Right Left vs 2nd line of door: All symbols are in group: All 4 symbols are in the group -> press nothing?Or reverse press Chariot ?Or press those present in both places: snake, hand , sun, scaleLeft Right vs 3rd Line of door: Only Antennae and Scale in group -> press cat twiceOr reverse: eye, man, wave?Or press those present in both places: Antennae and ScaleRIght of Right vs 4th Line of door: Only Rope and Scale in group: Press chariot and manOr reverse press scorpion and cat twiceOr press those present in both places: Rope and scaleI am not seeing enough of a pattern to like any of the options. My gut instinct so far: It's doesn't have a clear and obvious pattern of correspondanceIt's doesn't seem to have a clear and obvious numerical patternSo... it may be alphabetical?Most common symbols correspond to vowels in 5 letter words?If so the scales end each of the four patterns on each line of the door ... scales = e?Cat appears:  Cat Scales Cat and Cat Antenae Cat ... so likely a consonant? Which makes antenae a vowel?Man is next most common and is next to scales in two words: ue = blue, true ... unless scales is just a common letter like a T... sigh.Sooo... Not sure where I am going with this... Maui might climb down into the pit where Lem fell to take a look. And failing that he might start looking for ways to destroy the doorway. [/sblock]</blockquote>

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