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<blockquote data-quote="Qik" data-source="post: 5957243" data-attributes="member: 6673727">[sblock=OOC]Obviously, you're the boss.I counted out the steps, and the elemental could get 4 occupations of that square in from a starting point of S -3.&nbsp; If you'd like, I can walk through the numbers here.As far as the Ref save - again, you're the boss, but I think a circumstantial bonus doesn't make any sense.&nbsp; The elemental is completely surrounding the halfling by occupying the entirety of its space.&nbsp; No matter how pressed the halfling is against the wall, the elemental is able to completely surround it from all sides, not just around it, but above and below it.&nbsp; The text says nothing about circumstantial modifiers which would enable the victim to resist the attack.&nbsp; And I'm not even sure if a full envelopment is necessary to deal the damage.&nbsp; So I would respectfully disagree.Let me know what you think.[/sblock]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Qik, post: 5957243, member: 6673727"] [sblock=OOC]Obviously, you're the boss. I counted out the steps, and the elemental could get 4 occupations of that square in from a starting point of S -3. If you'd like, I can walk through the numbers here. As far as the Ref save - again, you're the boss, but I think a circumstantial bonus doesn't make any sense. The elemental is completely surrounding the halfling by occupying the entirety of its space. No matter how pressed the halfling is against the wall, the elemental is able to completely surround it from all sides, not just around it, but above and below it. The text says nothing about circumstantial modifiers which would enable the victim to resist the attack. And I'm not even sure if a full envelopment is necessary to deal the damage. So I would respectfully disagree. Let me know what you think.[/sblock] [/QUOTE]

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