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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jezter6" data-source="post: 1922273" data-attributes="member: 6567">Ok, so I expected a reply really quick and didn't get one...So I went out and purchased Haven d20 Modern for myself this afternoon. I haven't been able to digest all of it, but I'll post my quick observations here and hopefully will do a full RPGNow and/or enworld review when I finally get through it.1) This book is a monster, coming it at 94 pages. I knew it was going to be big when it took me 30 minutes to download it. (I have a 28.8 modem connection, and the Zip file is over 6 MB).2) As with #1, this thing is huge and is PACKED with content. The first 9 pages or so is a bit of a story (similar to the stories in the B&F series if you have those). It's a good read and a good addition to the book. Then 36 some pages of setting for the city of Haven. That is what is going to take forever to finally digest. And I will second another poster when I say that we definately need a map of this city. It's huge, and I just cant get my mind to grasp where stuff is in relation to other parts of town.3) As with #2 and #1, there's a few AdC's and plenty of feats. This is not Louis's normal style of 1 class per product, but you get about 4 (plus if you interchange the brains and brawns talent tree selections you can make probably 20 ore more different classes based on how you choose your talents). There's also a ton of talents to be chosen based on what organization you are affiliated with (crime families). I assume you can take them any time you can take another base talent, the text didn't seem to say (maybe Vig or Louis could point that out when they come in). Loads of crunch!!!4) I may not be reading the OGL sec 15 right, but it seems there's a lot of closed content. I know about half the book is city fluff, but I expected there to be more open content. Not really a big deal, I just like to see stuff open.5) No page numbers or Index/TOC at the beginning. That makes navigation pretty difficult, but isn't so bad...until you see #6. EDIT: There ARE page numbers, but they are written vertically white on grey sidebar. I never noticed them, and when I did, even reading them was pretty difficult due to them being written sideways with an odd font. So this entry is really only 'partially' a negative. Still could use a TOC, but I'd much rather have the bookmarks.6) No bookmarks. No bookmarks, no index, no page numbers, no navigation. I'm hoping that this is a quick fix and Louis will update the current file with at least some bookmarks so navigation is quicker.And just to prove the point, I did a search for one of the sections of Haven (Armistad) and the actual beginning of the Armistad description section was #19 in the search links. Took forever to find. A good quick bookmark to things like that would have brought me there in 10 seconds.Now, that being said...the bad stuff really isn't all that bad at all. In fact, overall the book is pretty darn spiffy and I really like what I bought. I would like some navigation though, it's the only thing keeping this from a 4.5 or 5 right now...</blockquote>

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