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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 7840366" data-attributes="member: 6987520">See, this is where we differ. No one I played with ever thought of HP as ridiculous (from '78 to present). It was the original to myself and many others, and we played plenty of other games that used different mechanics such as condition monitors, health levels, etc. and others that used similar mechanics (health points, life, etc.).Whatever complaining there was before, I think the decline is more to people growing to understand more what the mechanic is meant to represent (in whichever edition). Having more experienced players explain it to newbies also decreases confusion. I do agree that Gygax's intent was not properly understood by a lot of players initially, who thought HP was actual damage you could take. I've never known D&amp;D to not be at the forefront of RPGs, but to be honest it isn't something I really paid attention to at any point so I could be wrong on that point.And I see a lot of people here recommending other games instead of tweaking 5E so much... it happens all the time. The only reason I am loathe to try other games is because of the capital investment involved. I have a lot of money invested in 5E, and with reasonable house-rules I am fairly happy with it. I am certainly interested in other games, but most I have looked at online don't seem that great to my point of view or I can't find anything free to look at before I purchase.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 7840366, member: 6987520"] See, this is where we differ. No one I played with ever thought of HP as ridiculous (from '78 to present). It was the original to myself and many others, and we played plenty of other games that used different mechanics such as condition monitors, health levels, etc. and others that used similar mechanics (health points, life, etc.). Whatever complaining there was before, I think the decline is more to people growing to understand more what the mechanic is [I]meant[/I] to represent (in whichever edition). Having more experienced players explain it to newbies also decreases confusion. I do agree that Gygax's intent was not properly understood by a lot of players initially, who thought HP was actual damage you could take. I've never known D&D to [I]not[/I] be at the forefront of RPGs, but to be honest it isn't something I really paid attention to at any point so I could be wrong on that point. And I see a [I]lot[/I] of people here recommending other games instead of tweaking 5E so much... it happens all the time. The only reason I am loathe to try other games is because of the capital investment involved. I have a lot of money invested in 5E, and with reasonable house-rules I am fairly happy with it. I am certainly interested in other games, but most I have looked at online don't seem that great to my point of view or I can't find anything free to look at before I purchase. [/QUOTE]

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