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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 8163796" data-attributes="member: 12731">[USER=7024481]@nevin[/USER] I'm sorry but you seem mostly to go on a personal rant. While always good to cleanse I can't really use &quot;suggestions&quot; like &quot;The only reason pathfinders gold system makes no sense is they screwed up by making magic item prices insane&quot; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I certainly don't want to re-price all the items in the Treasure chapter. And as I said (or rather meant) Pathfinder 2 contains zero thoughts on what other things cost, other than what's in the Equipment chapter. D&amp;D is simply laser-focused on adventuring, so the only way &quot;you find 50,000 gold&quot; makes sense is if desirable purchases is in the five-digit range. In Pathfinder 2 at least there IS such a menu of item purchases = magic items. In 5th Edition, gold is essentially worthless.[SPOILER=&quot;Please don't derail THIS thread to discuss whether gold is worthless&quot;]Go literally anywhere else instead! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />[URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://theangrygm.com/nothing-here-but-worthless-gold/[/URL][URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://dmdavid.com/tag/why-dd-characters-get-tons-of-gold-and-nowhere-to-spend-it/[/URL][URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://nerdarchy.com/dd-treasure/[/URL][URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]http://www.arcanatimes.com/wtf-do-i-do-with-all-this-gold-in-5e-part-1/[/URL][MEDIA=reddit]DMAcademy/comments/aw8zsn[/MEDIA][URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://www.quora.com/Why-does-gold-feel-so-useless-in-5e-Dungeons-and-Dragons[/URL][URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/47604/without-a-magic-item-economy-what-is-gold-for[/URL][URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?366764-Does-gold-seem-worthless-this-Edition[/URL][URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://www.enworld.org/threads/whats-the-point-of-gold.424641/[/URL][/SPOILER]So I again I ask, what's a good alternative to luxury points (or wealth levels)?Again, asking the players to abstain from a juicy magic weapon or wand just to be able to maintain his mistress, or her drug addiction, is simply inconceivable, at least in my group. But fixing that is the easy part (just have separate currencies) so it's already done. The question is: what is the most fun currency for &quot;downtime purchases&quot;? I'm hoping for suggestions other than gold since I don't want to have to invent a new Wealth By Level table and/or create a believable fantasy economy <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 8163796, member: 12731"] [USER=7024481]@nevin[/USER] I'm sorry but you seem mostly to go on a personal rant. While always good to cleanse I can't really use "suggestions" like "The only reason pathfinders gold system makes no sense is they screwed up by making magic item prices insane" :) I certainly don't want to re-price all the items in the Treasure chapter. And as I said (or rather meant) Pathfinder 2 contains zero thoughts on what other things cost, other than what's in the Equipment chapter. D&D is simply laser-focused on adventuring, so the only way "you find 50,000 gold" makes sense is if desirable purchases is in the five-digit range. In Pathfinder 2 at least there IS such a menu of item purchases = magic items. In 5th Edition, gold is essentially worthless. [SPOILER="Please don't derail THIS thread to discuss whether gold is worthless"] Go literally anywhere else instead! :) [URL unfurl="true"]https://theangrygm.com/nothing-here-but-worthless-gold/[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://dmdavid.com/tag/why-dd-characters-get-tons-of-gold-and-nowhere-to-spend-it/[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://nerdarchy.com/dd-treasure/[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]http://www.arcanatimes.com/wtf-do-i-do-with-all-this-gold-in-5e-part-1/[/URL] [MEDIA=reddit]DMAcademy/comments/aw8zsn[/MEDIA] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.quora.com/Why-does-gold-feel-so-useless-in-5e-Dungeons-and-Dragons[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/47604/without-a-magic-item-economy-what-is-gold-for[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?366764-Does-gold-seem-worthless-this-Edition[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.enworld.org/threads/whats-the-point-of-gold.424641/[/URL] [/SPOILER] So I again I ask, what's a good alternative to luxury points (or wealth levels)? Again, asking the players to abstain from a juicy magic weapon or wand just to be able to maintain his mistress, or her drug addiction, is simply inconceivable, at least in my group. But fixing that is the easy part (just have separate currencies) so it's already done. The question is: what is the most fun currency for "downtime purchases"? I'm hoping for suggestions other than gold since I don't want to have to invent a new Wealth By Level table and/or create a believable fantasy economy :) [/QUOTE]

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