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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sejs" data-source="post: 1527608" data-attributes="member: 4910">Camarath: Actually, you can, but as a secondary attack.  So say for example I have an elven monk with a longsword.  I can use the full attack action to get my normal alotment of monk attacks, including flurry, and then take a single attack with the longsword at the normal two-weapon fighting penalties (including the penalty for the secondary weapon not being light in this example... ouch).  Or you can use the longsword as your primary weapon, getting a single secondary attack with your unarmed strike.  What you cannot do is use the longsword as your primary weapon, and flurry with your unarmed strike as a secondary attack.  Basically if you want to get multiple attacks with a secondary weapon, you need to take the improved/greater two-weapon fighting feats.  Right.  Unarmed strike is a defined, quantified weapon the same way a battle axe or mace is.  Certain abilities and feats just let you get more performance out of that character's unarmed strike.  Natural weapons are another different, defined weapon.  If you had a medium creature that had 1d4 dmg claws, that creature could choose to rake some guy with its claws doing 1d4 piercing/slashing damage and being considdered armed, or it could punch/kick/headbutt/knee/noogie the guy for 1d3 non-lethal bludgeoning damage and drawing an AoO if they attack an armed opponent.  Choosing between the two different attacks is essentially the same as a fighter choosing to use his sword or his mace.IceBear:Thank you much. It's very nice of you to say. ^_^Treebore: I'm sorry to split hairs here, but the FAQ is a clairification of the rules as put down by the publishers.  The two are one in the same.  But as you said, we're all intelligent people, we're all fit to interpret the rules as we feel would fit best for our individual games.</blockquote>

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