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Message: <blockquote data-quote="cignus_pfaccari" data-source="post: 2530838" data-attributes="member: 14557">Dude, that's some serious thread necromancy.To determine a lycanthrope's animal HD class skills, look at the animal.  Figure out where the modifiers for each skill come from.  If, after modifiers, you have something left over, that's how many skill points the animal invests in the skill.As an example, take the werewolf.  It has Wis 12/+1 and Dex 15/+2, and skills of Hide +2, Listen +3, Move Silently +3, Spot +3, and Survival +1.  There is a racial bonus of +4 on Survival for wolves, but only when tracking via scent.  There are no relevant feats.Hide:  +2 modifier, minus the +2 Dex modifier = 0 ranksListen:  +3 modifier, minus the +1 Wis mod = 2 ranksMove Silently:  +3 modifier, minus the +2 Dex modifier, = 1 rankSpot:  +3 modifier, minus the +1 Wis mod = 2 ranksSurvival:  +1 modifier, minus the +1 Wis mod = 0 ranksNote that this shows the wolf to have 5 skill ranks total, which is what it should have for a 2-HD animal.  As a result, the wolf has Listen, Move Silently, and Spot in class, and so those are the class skills for a werewolf's animal HD.Questions?Brad</blockquote>