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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1202902" data-attributes="member: 1656">Let's assume for the moment that the Sage is right about a change in Con from Polymorph being able to modify one's hit points.1. A creature with the Shapechanger subtype can revert to its natural form when Polymorphed.  So if the human werebear is polymorphed into a troll, and reverts to his natural form... is the spell expired?  Is it still in effect (ie he still radiates Transmutation magic for the duration of the spell), but "inaccessible"?  Can he shift back to troll form at will?2. In human form, our sample werebear has a Con of 12 (+1 modifier).  In werebear form, he has a Con of 20 (+5 modifier), since the werebear Con bonus is +8.  Thus, his hit points, regardless of form, are 1d8+1 (one humanoid hit die with a +1 modifer) plus 6d8+30 (six animal hit dice with a +5 modifier).If he is in human form, and polymorphed into an Orc (Con 15, +2 modifier), his werebear form Constitution rises to 23 (+6 modifier).  Presumably, his hit points become 1d8+2 plus 6d8+36.  But if he actually takes on his hybrid or animal forms, depending on the answer to 1 above - if the spell expires, presumably his Con drops back to normal, with the consequent drop in hit points?Now, if he is in animal form, and polymorphed into an Orc, it is surely his animal form Constitution that becomes 15.  What happens to his hit points?Do we assume that the +8 bonus is incorporated into the 15, with the result that his human form Con is now 7?  Is the bonus irrelevant while his animal form is actually an orc, so that his human Con remains 12?-Hyp.</blockquote>

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