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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Amazing Dingo" data-source="post: 2061357" data-attributes="member: 23353">Well, for the first step of a murder is for it to not necessarily to be a murder.  Let it start as a missing person.  That way, the first step is then to find out that it is a murder.  Heck, even a small Divination spell could tell the PCs that, but that makes the players feel like you're not nerfing their magical powers and such.Then comes having to find a body to cast Speak with Dead.  They might never come across a body.  Other then that, some good advice has been given above.  For stealing from movies, I suggest older movies.  They have some great plot lines and suggestions and, especially with a younger group of players, many will have forgotten about that movie or never have seen it to begin with.  It always good to make you appear smarter and more imaginative then you may be.</blockquote>